[QUOTE=Hendrik;1046568]Terence,
I know you are serious and
Let’s get serious. this is serious stuffs. the old one is fill with all kind of distorted mind posts and got nothing or little to do with the subject.
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Well, that sort of thing makes me not want to post since you will just delete the thread if you don’t like how it is going.
There are lots needs to look at and these are serious stuffs.
Hunt1 post an interesting post yesterday. the issue here is if one dont know what is WCK how can one know what one learn which is so called WCK is WCK instead of some mix up of Southern TCMA? That happen alots.
I don’t agree with you there. WCK is WCK. As long as you are using WCK movement, as described in the classical forms/exercises, you are “practicing” WCK.
And also, how can one know what is one’s strenght and weakness while facing an opponent without knowing Why WCK is WCK?
That is a “wrong” question. And wrong questions won’t lead you to meaningful answers.
The question isn’t “why WCK is WCK?” but “what is the WCK curriculum trying to teach you?” In other words, “what is it you are trying to do?” Because if you don’t know what it is you are trying to do, you can’t develop skill doing it.
One cant just claim one practice wCK and then using the karate strategy and power generation punch or Hung gar power generation to do SLT.
I agree with your statement but not with your rationale for the statement.
There are so many things can be discussed and shared and get educate on this why is WCK WCK issue.
Again, that is a wrong question.
First, the power generation,
By evidence,
In general, if we look at the power generation of say, Hung Gar, White Crane of fujian, and CLF. We can identify, Hung Gar is using the "lifting dead weight " type of power generation, White Crane of Fujian is famous for its snapping shock power generation, CLF is famous for its angular momentum swing.
As for WCK, WCK inherit White Crane of Fujian’s Snap or “inch power from join force” and Emei 12 Zhuang’s “snake slide worm moves” also the " squat lifting" type of power generation. These fusion make it suitable for close body action, one can see if one has this type of power or not by observing one’ action while doing the Woodern dummy, WCK suppose to stay close, stick, and snap… however, not every one or every lineage has this characteristic, IE if one using the General Southern TCMA’s “lifting dead weight” type of power generation, one will not do the same thing but got to stay far from the Woodern dummy because the power generation is different. So does in application and real life action. different power generation means a totally different thing.
I don’t care how other arts do things or generate power. I don’t know much about them, and I don’t know if you do either. I am concerned with WCK, not other arts. And I look at WCK from a functional perspective (why and how things fit together to do what I want to do).
WCK’s method is to control the opponent while striking, and that entails getting in, staying close, sticking, and having short range shocking-type power amongst other things. So, my method of “generating power” – or using my body – needs to be able to accommodate those things. I don’t care about “power signatures” and so forth – I care about function.
Then, there is strategy of application, then there is body mind focus conditioning…etc all of these are key to know what is what and why is it.
It is all about technical and details. look at it and ask what is it. and see if it converge with the history tracks and records… Things are much clear then some think.
The method comes from the ancestors, the key is adapting it to the situation.
I have trained under quite a few legitimate old timer WCner, and they never mentioned anything even remotely close to Emei’s snake continuous slide power generation lol, perhaps they do it and is something that’s developed naturally through the coarse of WCK training, but it was never spoken of specificly. And that was the reason i was asking, because you are the only person that I ever heard use this term.