Can’t you see Hendrik graciously took nothing and made it look like something mysterious, convincing everyone it was something special?
Now everyone wants to know what it REALLY is? It came from nothing and it will go back to nothing. Because it was nothing from the start, in the end all you will have is nothing that someone “convinced you” was something!
For reference material I suggest viewing “Monty Python’s The Life of Brian” in order to see how dimwits may be easily fooled into thinking nothing is really worth something!
Can’t you see Hendrik graciously took nothing and made it look like something mysterious, convincing everyone it was something special?
Now everyone wants to know what it REALLY is? It came from nothing and it will go back to nothing. Because it was nothing from the start, in the end all you will have is nothing that someone “convinced you” was something!
For reference material I suggest viewing “Monty Python’s The Life of Brian” in order to see how dimwits may be easily fooled into thinking nothing is really worth something!;)[/QUOTE]
I like to be entertained too! You are a fraud, but you have convinced these kids you know something mysterious! You should be ashamed of yourself for allowing allowing these kids to stroke your ego!
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1069058]You can bullsh!t the kids, but not the adults!
I like to be entertained too!
You are a fraud, but you have convinced these kids you know something mysterious!
You should be ashamed of yourself for allowing allowing these kids to stroke your ego![/QUOTE]
hahaha,
Great entertainment !
Kids? adults? KFF are you a Kid?
Mysterious? sorry nothing is mysterious here.
Stroke ego? WCK technical discussion here for Wcner?
Scott do you practice WCK? or you got so bored in the Xmas day and wanting some attention? hahahe. Keep up with your posting I let the moderator delete them.
Stroke ego? WCK technical discussion here for Wcner?
Scott do you practice WCK? or you got so bored in the Xmas day and wanting some attention? hahahe. Keep up with your posting I let the moderator delete them.[/QUOTE]
When someone asks you for an explanation because your explanations are too obtuse to understand and you tell them to go look elsewhere, you are demonstrating your own lack of technical understanding. If you cannot explain it simply you either don’t understand yourself or are intentionally being obtuse/mysterious. Either one provides nothing profitable to a learner.
My “technical” advice as a former elite athlete with 35 years of training in many athletic disciplines is: The body knows what to do if you let it respond spontaneously. Practice your skills in various environments, including actual unstructured fighting, and it will respond according to what is necessary on its own, without any of this “technical” mumbo jumbo confusing the issue!
Intellectual pursuits for the enjoyment of it all is fine, If your goal is to learn to fight, forget it all. Stop worrying about it. Understanding all this “technical” bull and anything Hendrik or anyone else says concerning it is useless in a real fight. Which is why people like Henrik get their butts beat by basics trained streetfighters.
Why chase a made-up mystery when meat and potatoes will take you where you want to go with a lot less time, expense and aggravation?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1068838]Every one can answer this by themself.[/QUOTE]
Well, obviously not as again you fail to see what I’m getting at.
I’m just so glad I’ve had my feast and can look forward to a great new year of training in the way I know and the way that feels natural to me. I thought I found similarities in what you and Theo have shared on this thread, but I haven’t.
Just say you dont do WCK, dont know internal training, and you hate me for some reason.
I am ok with it.
As for the Ego part, I didnt go to your thread and post as a “police” forcing others to post thing my way and commenting on things I am clueless. So by evidence isnt it you are driven by that big self-righteousness ego of yours to post all of these? You dont come with peace and trying to understand isnt it?
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1069069]When someone asks you for an explanation because your explanations are too obtuse to understand and you tell them to go look elsewhere, you are demonstrating your own lack of technical understanding. If you cannot explain it simply you either don’t understand yourself or are intentionally being obtuse/mysterious. Either one provides nothing profitable to a learner.
My “technical” advice as a former elite athlete with 35 years of training in many athletic disciplines is: The body knows what to do if you let it respond spontaneously. Practice your skills in various environments, including actual unstructured fighting, and it will respond according to what is necessary on its own, without any of this “technical” mumbo jumbo confusing the issue!
Intellectual pursuits for the enjoyment of it all is fine, If your goal is to learn to fight, forget it all. Stop worrying about it. Understanding all this “technical” bull and anything Hendrik or anyone else says concerning it is useless in a real fight. Which is why people like Henrik get their butts beat by basics trained streetfighters.
Why chase a made-up mystery when meat and potatoes will take you where you want to go with a lot less time, expense and aggravation?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1069076]Just say you dont do WCK, dont know internal training, and you hate me for some reason.
I am ok with it.[/quote]
Just because I disagree with just about everything you ever post doesn’t mean I hate you Hendrik. And I am unconcerned with what you are okay with or not. It is immaterial what I train in. I know more about and practice more about internal that you do anyway. I just prefer not to use jargon and mysterious sounding bunk to make it sound mysterious and special, because it is actually everyday and common.
I am merely taking time to correct you. Think of it as being generous to a wayward soul! I do nothing you don’t presume to do for others. I am just more specific that you. I don’t dance around the issue with obtuse Chinese quotes. I come straight to the point. If it offends you that is your problem. If you don’t like it then perhaps correct yourself before you correct others!
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1069076]As for the Ego part, I didnt go to your thread and post as a “police” forcing others to post thing my way and commenting on things I am clueless. So by evidence isnt it you are driven by that big self-righteousness ego of yours to post all of these? You dont come with peace and trying to understand isnt it?[/QUOTE]
No, and don’t pretend you post in peace because you don’t. I made a substantive comment/criticism concerning the manner in which you treat people who have come to you for information.
You say you want substantive conversations, yet you never address the issue I bring up. It is immaterial what I train. Information is information. I think you were unfair to KFF and dismissive of his request and somewhat belittling too. If you are going to set yourself up to be an authority, I think you should be a bit more straight-forward and less dismissive. When you behave with dismissiveness you come across as thinking you are superior to others. This is a flaw in your teaching style, if you are truly as sincere in your intent as you claim.
If my participation upsets you, just consider all the other things you have said on various threads I could have commented upon, but did not. I have been very gracious to you. If you wish to engage me on any thread I participate in, please feel free. If I do not want to play with you, I will just ignore you!
Great post, I let others to read and decide for themselve what are you practicing. For me it is a great entertainment.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1069093]Just because I disagree with just about everything you ever post doesn’t mean I hate you Hendrik. And I am unconcerned with what you are okay with or not. It is immaterial what I train in. I know more about and practice more about internal that you do anyway. I just prefer not to use jargon and mysterious sounding bunk to make it sound mysterious and special, because it is actually everyday and common.
I am merely taking time to correct you. Think of it as being generous to a wayward soul! I do nothing you don’t presume to do for others. I am just more specific that you. I don’t dance around the issue with obtuse Chinese quotes. I come straight to the point. If it offends you that is your problem. If you don’t like it then perhaps correct yourself before you correct others!
No, and don’t pretend you post in peace because you don’t. I made a substantive comment/criticism concerning the manner in which you treat people who have come to you for information.
You say you want substantive conversations, yet you never address the issue I bring up. It is immaterial what I train. Information is information. I think you were unfair to KFF and dismissive of his request and somewhat belittling too. If you are going to set yourself up to be an authority, I think you should be a bit more straight-forward and less dismissive. When you behave with dismissiveness you come across as thinking you are superior to others. This is a flaw in your teaching style, if you are truly as sincere in your intent as you claim.
If my participation upsets you, just consider all the other things you have said on various threads I could have commented upon, but did not. I have been very gracious to you. If you wish to engage me on any thread I participate in, please feel free. If I do not want to play with you, I will just ignore you!;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1069076]Just say you dont do WCK, dont know internal training, [/QUOTE]
why do u assume that? because he takes issue with ur perspective? this is a common response on ur part, to declare that the person disagreeing w u “doesn’t know” internal training; why is that?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1069076]and you hate me for some reason. [/QUOTE]
u r equating disagreement and criticism with hatred (something u hav done at other times) - u seem to like to cast urself as some sort of victimized individual who is “hated” for his beliefs - that’s a bit of a projection, to speculate that Scott “hates” u, it wud suggest an emotional attachment to you that really wudn’t b possible, since this is all discussion on an internet forum; at best, he cud hate his own projection of who he thinks u r; seems like u hav a bit of a persecution complex, to jump from disagreement to hatred; why is that?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1069076]As for the Ego part, I didnt go to your thread and post as a “police” forcing others to post thing my way [/QUOTE]
a) this is not “your” thread; it is a public thread on a public forum;
b) Scott can no more “force” anyone to post “his” way than anyone one else can;
again, u ascribe characteristics to a person / situation that r not true and do nothing but over-dramatize things; why is that?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1069096]Great post, I let others to read and decide for themselve what are you practicing. For me it is a great entertainment.[/QUOTE]
Good idea! I can see there are many who find what you have to say of value. You will note I don’t make a habit of trying to dissuade anyone from asking you anything nor do I follow you around looking for something to criticize.
The best thing for you to do, if I irritate you, is to ignore me when I have something to say. I will comment as I am inclined from time to time regardless, however without your participation, there is no conversation. On the other hand, the fact you respond to me appears to indicate you get something out of our interactions. I know I do, or I wouldn’t take the time to do it!
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1069099]Good idea! I can see there are many who find what you have to say of value. You will note I don’t make a habit of trying to dissuade anyone from asking you anything nor do I follow you around looking for something to criticize.
The best thing for you to do, if I irritate you, is to ignore me when I have something to say. I will comment as I am inclined from time to time regardless, however without your participation, there is no conversation. On the other hand, the fact you respond to me appears to indicate you get something out of our interactions. I know I do, or I wouldn’t take the time to do it!:)[/QUOTE]
You are like a movie or mirror for me. entertainment when it is a movie, mirror when I always could improve.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1069093] I think you were unfair to KFF and dismissive of his request and somewhat belittling too. If you are going to set yourself up to be an authority, I think you should be a bit more straight-forward and less dismissive. When you behave with dismissiveness you come across as thinking you are superior to others. When someone asks you for an explanation because your explanations are too obtuse to understand and you tell them to go look elsewhere[/QUOTE]
Scott I agree! I do believe Hendrik have sommething of value to share, I just wish he would be more straight-forward and less dismissive. Just when i thought we were making some progress he defaulted back to bai si therefore shutting me down instead of discussing the details involved with his snake engine.
[QUOTE=kung fu fighter;1069106]Scott I agree! I wish Hendrik would be more straight-forward and less dismissive, just when i thought we were making some progress he defaulted back to bai si therefore shutting me down instead of discussing the details involved with his snake engine.[/QUOTE]
Hendrick has a particular style; if you are attracted to his particular methods, then that will serve you; if you find it instructive and useful, go with it; however, if it does not, then best to move on; what’s more, to wish he would be otherwise (more straight-forward, less dissmisive), or try to change the way he is, is fruitless - he will remain as he is because this serves his needs, whatever those may be; and please do not be confused: when I (or Scott, if I may SPECULATE) engage him critically, it is not because we want him to change or, even think that he might - in fact, I have absolutely no hope that he will!
There is a long Asian tradition of “demonstrating for a student” and then letting him figure it out for himself. This method is outdated. It is inefficient and frustrating for students in the modern world. It does not make a student a better fighter or a better instructor, neither does it bestow any special insight on the student. All it does is allow them to remain an incompetent fighter for a longer period of time and frustrates them when a simple instruction of 5 or so minutes can save them years of wandering aimlessly trying to figure something out on their own.
Fighting and fighting principles are simple and basic, NOT complicated and profound. Anyone who makes them complicated and profound is doing an injustice to those wishing to learn and demonstrating their own lack of depth of understanding.
So, on occasion, I feel motivated to comment on the subject. Hendrik just happens to be a glittering example of what NOT to do! That is not to say he doesn’t have sommething of value to share from time to time. He just tends to make it seem too mysterious and complicated to understand much of the time. Since I disagree with his method, I say so!
It’s nothing personal! Although I can see how it may appear personal since I tend to be direct and blunt with my comments towards him! I do this because he is generally stubborn and thinks he is a know-it-all, or at least comes across that way; people like that require a straight forward and blunt style.
