[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070233]Tailbone is a part of the body, anything advance will need to have an awareness and adaptive handling of this part of the body.
That means snake engine and hua jing and fajing…etc all need to have an adaptive handling of the tail bone naturally. [/QUOTE]
Would you that that master Tsui sheung tin has attained the snake engine and hua jing?
[QUOTE=kung fu fighter;1070386]Would you that that master Tsui sheung tin has attained the snake engine and hua jing?[/QUOTE]
Dont know, have never met him in person.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070406]Dont know, have never met him in person.[/QUOTE]
But come on hendrick … you are willing to refer to youtube clips when it suits you but when youre asked to refer to someone that has a LOT of clips in regards to WC… “ive never met him”
Oh…and incindentally someone who doesnt grasp at loose connnections with a “signature move” but someone who can actually show how his take of WC works.
Im probably assuming to miuch, but if TST met you and listened to your theories he would probably nod his head and say “yeh… right”
GlennR
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070406]Dont know, have never met him in person.[/QUOTE]
Come on Hendrick… 35 years research in WC and you havent studied TST???
Thats like studying heavy weight boxing and never looking at Mike Tyson??
Your research is SELECTIVE .
You hurl yourself at whatever confirms your opinion and arrogantly dismiss anything else as His-story (your term… very handy)
You sir, are a clown
GlennR
Force vectors handling and choose of effected target.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070508]Force vectors handling and choose of effected target.
Good demo Hendrik.
There are some wc folks who can do that- none on You.tube that I know of.
I would not use TST as an example- and I have met him-he is good at what he does but not per above.
joy chaudhuri
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Good demo Hendrik.
There are some wc folks who can do that- none on You.tube that I know of.
I would not use TST as an example- and I have met him-he is good at what he does but not per above.
joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]
Joy,
Agree.
people who is good at it know how to use their Jin.
That is what Arrow punch or punch doesnt come back means, the force vectors shot out and transfer to the desire intended target. WCK short jin has this type of characterisitc.
Also,
notice in the punching demo in 1.04; it is not the Bruce Lee type of inch punch where the punching hand is using the cross leg and entire physical body to behind it to push out. This is a different type of jin instead of entire body /leg extended pushing.
That is what I share with Theo, for those who want to know what happen with Theo’s jin sharing decription in the previous post. it looks like 1.23 or 1.28 with shorter distance for the hand to travel and very small body movement contribute by the snake technology.
lots of WCners can do it without moving the shoulder that much and way but just a few inch and it penetrate even if one got armour guard.
Long Tiger and KFF and YKW,
Those are a type of Fajin in case you want to know what I mean by Fajin. not the Bruce Lee demo type, WCK inch jin is 1.23/1.28 and beyond. IMHO. narrow stance and small movements.
KMP, KFF,
We use to disagree with the short jin, now the above is what I mean. and also this structure as what I use is not the same type of hip pressing type. This type of structure is closer to the dynamic flow structure which I mean. The demonstrator knows Aikido ..etc so he knows the dynamic flow structure and momentum transfer.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070534]Joy,
Agree.
people who is good at it know how to use their Jin.
That is what Arrow punch or punch doesnt come back means, the force vectors shot out and transfer to the desire intended target. WCK short jin has this type of characterisitc.
Also,
notice in the punching demo in 1.04; it is not the Bruce Lee type of inch punch where the punching hand is using the cross leg and entire physical body to behind it to push out. This is a different type of jin instead of entire body /leg extended pushing.
That is what I share with Theo, for those who want to know what happen with Theo’s jin sharing decription in the previous post. it looks like 1.23 or 1.28 with shorter distance for the hand to travel and very small body movement contribute by the snake technology.
lots of WCners can do it without moving the shoulder that much and way but just a few inch and it penetrate even if one got armour guard.
Long Tiger and KFF and YKW,
Those are a type of Fajin in case you want to know what I mean by Fajin. not the Bruce Lee demo type, WCK inch jin is 1.23/1.28 and beyond. IMHO. narrow stance and small movements.
KMP, KFF,
We use to disagree with the short jin, now the above is what I mean. and also this structure as what I use is not the same type of hip pressing type. This type of structure is closer to the dynamic flow structure which I mean. The demonstrator knows Aikido ..etc so he knows the dynamic flow structure and momentum transfer.[/QUOTE]
Hendrik, thanks for the clip, can you post clips also of hua jing and the snake engine in operation
[QUOTE=kung fu fighter;1070566]Hendrik, thanks for the clip, can you post clips also of hua jing and the snake engine in operation[/QUOTE]
Sure when I find one.
Hope that by this time you already know, there is no way to learn this stuffs without a good Sifu and coach who is willing to reveal the process to a commit person who is sincere intending to put the effort to learn.
Another topic is people argue with me when I post the Pak Kuit which use to dissolve Sun punch.
Come up with so called Critical thinking reason…etc for their reason to doubt the kuit as if only WCK uses Sun punch.
Well, take a look at what type of punch the Demonstrator in the Clip use? Sun punch type?
BTW. in 1.13 the demonstrator explain this type of strike is for penetrating the armour guard or protection. That is WCK type of deal in 1850. IMHO.
Thus, it breaks hard Qigong. It is not that Bruce Lee push or body weight push. it is much agile and clean in momentum. IMHO, without these type of capability WCK is hopeless to go against eh Southern Mantis and White Crane hard power and iron body.
This is also not the HKB WCK type of power, as in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEe9CH3Y7Bg
BUt,
it is as it was describe in the ancient kuit
Yee moves and Shen is already there or place the intention and the spirit is already there. or I set my intention and my Jin is already there. The true meaning of arrow punch. or Jin Kuen.
, quiet like the autum’s moon in the sky, moving like a cyclone, gently subdue the enemy within split of an inch.
, I can be as lite as feather or heavy as a mountain, in application there is no fix shape ( dynamic flow structure), the application and the supporting energy are one.
Those are what get me hot and passionate.
Not those fighting and fighting and sparing with brute force and blind. and keep add in other stuffs but still cant do a decent sun punch as the above demonstration those power or momentum handling/generation.
It is those targeting clean hit and dynamic flow are the beauty and elegant of the art, who cares for those brute force clumpsy in effective sun chain punches ? one short even the armour got penetrate… That is the realm of play 1850 among Leong Jan, Yik Kam, and those famous CLF people… which has become legend of WCK in general.
On another hand, isnt it a true magical that eventhough the type of power demonstrate is very penetrating
but
it can be dissolved totally with a single light slap or pak at the upper wrist of the puncher?
Isnt that the true wisdom of the ancient who knows how different Jin works and thus knows how to damge and and what is the cancellation or dissolving?
It is this type of stuffs, which I meet in my journey of reseraching the Yik Kam SLT kuen kuit ,makes me salute and bow to the ancient and see behind their weapon there are love of peace, for there is no such thing as un breakable in this world.
Fightint might not avoidable in some case however as a whole loving others is the best resolution.
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Kn8lrT_5ISE/
Only the Taiji system has the most rediculus “push”. The “push” is neither “punch” nor “throw”.
Bruce Lee once said, “I punch and I don’t push”. I respect him just for saying that.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1070612]http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Kn8lrT_5ISE/
Only the Taiji system has the most rediculus “push”. The “push” is neither “punch” nor “throw”.
Bruce Lee once said, “I punch and I don’t push”. I respect him just for saying that.[/QUOTE]
A taiji master will say " I do punch, I do throw, I do push, and I also issue force vectors "
What can “push” accomplish?
Old saying said, “You should keep your friends close but your enemies closer.” You don’t want your enemy to have a chance to run back to his car, grab a gun, and come back to shot you. The best place for your opponent is right below your knee.
Clip like this gives TCMA bad name. 
The more that this kind of clips appear on youtube, the harder for our TCMA lovers to defend the reputation of TCMA.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070610]Hua Jin
in Taiji
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Kn8lrT_5ISE/[/QUOTE]
Hendrik, what’s the difference between how the tai chi master does hua jing compared to how you do it in yik kam wing chun?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070578]Those are what get me hot and passionate.
Not those fighting and fighting and sparing with brute force and blind. and keep add in other stuffs but still cant do a decent sun punch as the above demonstration those power or momentum handling/generation.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you make the ridiculous assumption that fighting and sparring involves brute force and blindness? In reality it only lends proper focus to the sun punch and momentum handling. Otherwise all you have is people who can do demos by pushing on one another, which is kind of like a card trick on a street corner or in a bar.
It is those targeting clean hit and dynamic flow are the beauty and elegant of the art, who cares for those brute force clumpsy in effective sun chain punches ? one short even the armour got penetrate… That is the realm of play 1850 among Leong Jan, Yik Kam, and those famous CLF people… which has become legend of WCK in general.
And that is largely legend. People that can kill someone with a punch through plate mail.
it can be dissolved totally with a single light slap or pak at the upper wrist of the puncher?
Isnt that the true wisdom of the ancient who knows how different Jin works and thus knows how to damge and and what is the cancellation or dissolving?
It is this type of stuffs, which I meet in my journey of reseraching the Yik Kam SLT kuen kuit ,makes me salute and bow to the ancient and see behind their weapon there are love of peace, for there is no such thing as un breakable in this world.
Fightint might not avoidable in some case however as a whole loving others is the best resolution.
And avoiding reality through “The Last Airbender” type delusions seems very entertaining for some. And yet reality still remains.
A person who can fight and spar with “brute force” and “blindness” will have good TCMA future. You can change a cougar into a lion. You can’t change a deer into a tiger.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1070508]Force vectors handling and choose of effected target.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZMQWGPJwM4&feature=related[/QUOTE]
the guy in the back was throwing himself back and doing a bad job at acting like he wasnt 
this isnt the same guy who got himself kod on that bullshido clip is it?
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1070624]A person who can fight and spar with “brute force” and “blindness” will have good TCMA future. You can change a cougar into a lion. You can’t change a deer into a tiger.[/QUOTE]
If that is your view on TCMA, that is fine with me.
[QUOTE=kung fu fighter;1070617]Hendrik, what’s the difference between how the tai chi master does hua jing compared to how you do it in yik kam wing chun?[/QUOTE]
Human is human, different style only develop it via different path. It is a matter who’s kung fu is deeper.