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Wai Jia: The Kung Fu Forum Wing Chun
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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072832]This is an example of the answer for your

“will this help my combat skills and how?”

in a classical TCMA IMA way

http://www.taichicentral.com/tai-chi-central-news-journal/files/1de5f0941f950372a01eac473515b02d-20.php

Addendum (attributed to Yang Lu-Chan (1799-1872)

This treatise was left to us by the founder, Zhang Sanfeng.

offering the promise of longevity to the whole world,

It is not just for trivial martial skill which is consider to be the the least important.

----------------------------------------------------------[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that example, which proves my point.

Could you highlight where it mentions improving his combat skills there??

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My Tai Chi teacher (Wei Shu Ren, Beijing) described as “feeling like sitting on a swing.”

I don’t recall my KLWC teacher (Leung Wun Zi, Guangzhou) mentioning anything similar tho.

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[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1072834]My Tai Chi teacher (Wei Shu Ren, Beijing) described as “feeling like sitting on a swing.”

I don’t recall my KLWC teacher (Leung Wun Zi, Guangzhou) mentioning anything similar tho.[/QUOTE]

Hi John

Id be interested on your take on the idea of comparing WC to Tai Chi… similar or vastly different?
Or somewhere in between
Regards
GlennR

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072832]
Addendum (attributed to Yang Lu-Chan (1799-1872)

This treatise was left to us by the founder, Zhang Sanfeng.

offering the promise of longevity to the whole world,

It is not just for trivial martial skill which is consider to be the the least important.[/QUOTE]

  • May I ask why you are promoting “longevity” in a TCMA forum?
  • Do we really need TCMA for “longevity”?
  • Do you think that “trivial martial skill which is consider to be the the least important” is the right attitude?

It’s very sad that TCMA guys have to face the challenge from the MMA world to prove that TCMA has great value in it. It’s even more sad to face the challenge from his own TCMA brother who tries to lead TCMA futher away from “combat reality”.

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[QUOTE=GlennR;1072833]Thanks for that example, which proves my point.

Could you highlight where it mentions improving his combat skills there??[/QUOTE]

Isnt the answer is obvious?

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072837]Isnt the answer is obvious?[/QUOTE]

No its not

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[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1072834]My Tai Chi teacher (Wei Shu Ren, Beijing) described as “feeling like sitting on a swing.”

I don’t recall my KLWC teacher (Leung Wun Zi, Guangzhou) mentioning anything similar tho.[/QUOTE]

John,

Could you please elaborate what is “feeling like sitting on a swing” means? Thanks!

As for who mention what, my take is it is all about the state of attainment.

However, if the art itself is not par or match up to the level then the depth of the art is obvious.

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1072836]- May I ask why you are promoting “longevity” in a TCMA forum?

  • Do we really need TCMA for “longevity”?
  • Do you think that “trivial martial skill which is consider to be the the least important” is the right attitude?

It’s very sad that TCMA guys have to face the challenge from the MMA world to prove that TCMA has great value in it. It’s even more sad to face the challenge from his own TCMA brother who tries to lead TCMA futher away from 'combat reality".[/QUOTE]

How is my Kung fu compare with Yang Lu-Chan (1799-1872)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Lu-ch'an
How is your Kung fu compare with him? May be you are better then him?

However,
For me, I am 10000 miles away lower then him. so I dont talk anything he doesnt mention.

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072840]How is my Kung fu compare with Yang Lu-Chan (1799-1872)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Lu-ch'an
How is your Kung fu compare with him? May be you are better then him?

However,
For me, I am 10000 miles away lower then him. so I dont talk anything he doesnt mention.[/QUOTE]

Here we go again… name dropping to push your agenda and avoid the question

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[QUOTE=GlennR;1072835]Hi John

Id be interested on your take on the idea of comparing WC to Tai Chi… similar or vastly different?
Or somewhere in between
Regards
GlennR[/QUOTE]
Question was not for me, post deleted.

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[QUOTE=GlennR;1072841]Here we go again… name dropping to push your agenda and avoid the question[/QUOTE]

hahaha, as a chinese martial artists towards YKW who is a chinese, I have answered the question clearly and also there is no name dropping. you just posting against for against sake.

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072840]How is my Kung fu compare with Yang Lu-Chan (1799-1872)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Lu-ch'an
How is your Kung fu compare with him? May be you are better then him?

However,
For me, I am 10000 miles away lower then him. so I dont talk anything he doesnt mention.[/QUOTE]

Yang Lu Chan didn’t have to deal with MMA guys, MT guys, BJJ guys, and boxer but we do in our generation. There is bloody battle field out there brother!

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072844]hahaha, as a chinese martial artists towards YKW who is a chinese, I have answered the question clearly and also there is no name dropping. you just posting against for against sake.[/QUOTE]

So the translations below the chinese characters are wrong?

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Yang Lu-Chen was a fighter and not a person who only care about longevity.

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1072845]Yang Lu Chan didn’t have to deal with MMA guys, MT guys, BJJ guys, and boxer but we do in our generation. There is bloody battle field out there brother![/QUOTE]

So you still think you are better then Yang Lu Chan, that is fine with me.

and also, you think MMA or BJJ guys are much better fighter then Qing’s imperial Mongolian wresters fighters guards who were train to kill?

http://kaleidoscope.cultural-china.com/en/186K4882K10982.html

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1072850]Yang Lu-Chen was a fighter and not a person who only care about longevity.[/QUOTE]

His nick name is the Invincible Yang and still not boasting how good a fighter he was.

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Anyone actually go and test out this levitate ideas in your class this week end?
Try it and see what you get.

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;1072859]So you still think you are better then Yang Lu Chan, that is fine with me.

and also, you think MMA or BJJ guys are much better fighter then Qing’s imperial Mongolian wresters fighters guards who were train to kill?

http://kaleidoscope.cultural-china.com/en/186K4882K10982.html[/QUOTE]
I didn’t say that I’m better than Yang Lu-Chen. (Bu Ke Miao Shi Qian Ren) - One should not dis-respect ancient CMA masters. It’s just part of the Wude.

  • Those (Pu Hu) in (Qing)'s imperial (Shan Pu Yin) were not Mongolian wrestlers but Chinese wrestlers. Most of them came from Beijing, Tinjing, and Baoding in the Hopei province.

  • There was no official record to indicate that Yang Lu-Chen had ever defeated any Chinese wrestler in his life time. There were some tough guys in that (Shan Pu Yin).

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8093/sanpuyin.jpg

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1072864]I didn’t say that I’m better than Yang Lu-Chen. (Bu Ke Miao Shi Qian Ren) - One should not dis-respect ancient CMA masters. It’s just part of the Wude.

  • Those (Pu Hu) in (Qing)'s imperial (Shan Pu Yin) were not Mongolian wrestlers but Chinese wrestlers. Most of them came from Beijing, Tinjing, and Baoding in the Hopei province.

  • There was no official record to indicate that Yang Lu-Chen had ever defeated any Chinese wrestler in his life time. There were some tough guys in that (Shan Pu Yin).

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8093/sanpuyin.jpg[/QUOTE]

Good,

Do you know why I reveal these Levitate stuffs? What is my agenda?

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That was my question?

  • Why do I need to know levitation?
  • If I don’t know levitation then what problem that I’ll have?
  • Can levitation enhance my combat skill?

I don’t know levitation so far and I haven’t found anything missing yet. Can levitation enhance my “hip throw” or my “roundhouse kick”?

If you are talking about dynamic rooting then I’ll agree with you that dynamic rooting is more useful than static rooting. But apparently you are not talking about “dynamic rooting” and I truly don’t understand your “agenda”.