San Shou is a set of rules. Some people adapt their TCMA to them, but I see a lot of other people taking kickboxing/MT/TKD/karate kicks, boxing punches, and wrestling/judo throws and calling their amalgamation “San Shou.” To my understanding, this is what Cung Le has done. I went to the college at which he wrestled and my current San Shou coach was a student of his and Rudi Ott.
I have a BB mag from Jan 2001 in which he says he’s done: TKD, wrestling, Vietnamese KF (said he never remembered forms, just basics and sparring), a little BJJ, and boxing. What I see in the San Shou I’m learning from his student is boxing hands, TKD and possibly MT-influenced kicks, and wrestling takedowns. The footwork is most definitely boxing. There’s nothing wrong with it and I enjoy it, but I don’t consider it TCMA as I understand it. I do get to work some of my BSL and WT into it, though, which is fun. 
http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?FID=1&a=230&TID=0
John Marsh, a MMA fighter showed up for a challenge by a Kung Fu guy.
The KF guy put up $5,000 saying with no rules he could beat any fighter of any size.
On the post is someone who was there.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...martia l+arts
I grabbed this from mma.tv
"LOL, ok here is the story.
John was going to fight the guy for 5k and then I was going to fight him for anothedr 5k. The fight was a full no-rules fight. The kung fu guy had posted in a forum that the UFC and Pride were fake and if eye gauging (sp) and bitting you’re allowed he would beat any fighter at ANY weight class.
Our friend Dale ask him if he would fight a guy who was 250lbs and the guy said that it would be better because it would just prove his point even more.
So Dale propose two fights, one with John and one with someone his own weight (me). You can see me on the background with a knee pad on next to “Caique”, our BJJ instructor at the time.
The voice on the background is of Bo Hershberger, brown belt from Caique, really close friend of John’s.
Dale was the guy that put up the money on our side (10k)and keep half off the winning’s, but only John fought because the guy’s arm got broken and so he could not fight me.
THe kung fu guy admited his style was crap on his site at the time and got **** from all the other “mastes” out there, so he offer to put up 5k out of his own money to see them fight John or I and they all refused; their excuse you may ask???
They said that they did not want to KILL US, and that’s what would happen if they had a no-rules fight against us. LOL!!!
Later guys,
Mauricio Zingano"
[QUOTE=Becca;711157]But do so with the realization that they won’t let you use as many of your “tools” as a more specialized type of event would. [/QUOTE]
I’m confused.
What extra tools does San Shou allow that MMA doesn’t?
Here’s some fight footage of me from before I started to train with Renzo Gracie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zGuQFh9MXo
Keep in mind, I’m your trypical martial artists just maybe a little more focused. Meaning, I don’t lift weight or take supplements, I’m not training to be a pro fighter… I just compete to test myself.
All of my standup can be attributed to what I learned from master David Bond Chan, a Chinese internal stylist. A lot of people find faults in it, too agressive, sloppy, etc. Yea. I’m still growing. But I’ve only been landed on solidly once in real fighting, and that was after being tripped and boucning off the ropes into a right cross that broke my face:)
Here’s a clip of how I train my students. These are excerpts from Sat. class: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1enIDU8r6bU
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;716846]But I’ve only been landed on solidly once in real fighting, and that was after being tripped and boucning off the ropes into a right cross that broke my face:) [/QUOTE]
What’s the story on the Judo/Boxing guy who challenged you?