You missed out ping.
and bada bing bada boom:)
Ernie,
That’s it. You’re going down, bro! Thanks for the tips! Ha! Ha!
Ernie.
You are right. human is flesh and blood and ego also. otherwise don’t know what is hurting. 
Next time while I do push hand with a taiji guy . I will kick him snikily to make him pain.
but what if he bounce me off root with the first touch? then can I complain it is not fair that he uses reel silk Jing?
hendrik
it’s not shocking if he see’s it coming
‘’ the hand you don’t see will hurt you ‘’
no silk jing when you don’t see the knee in the nuts followed by the head butt and elbow to the temple all in a split second the body will over load it’s a natural reation .
next time your tai chi teacher is doing push hands toss him a hot bowl of soup and while he’s dealing with that sock him in the face
Originally posted by Ernie
[B]
‘’ the hand you don’t see will hurt you ‘’
next time your tai chi teacher is doing push hands toss him a hot bowl of soup and while he’s dealing with that sock him in the face [/B]
Ernie,
The Diaz, one very close to will break you heart.
Pual,
dope Ernie with booze.
Don’t have to train, it is not about art but about nasty.
dope Ernie with booze.
hey i rarely drink
so good luck on that one 
better to stuff me on good food:D
Don’t have to train, it is not about art but about nasty
now you got it
anything and everything can and will be countered , there is no perfect no immovable
just another person no different then yourself , perhaps it will be his or perhaps it will be yours
the only thing to be certain of is uncertanty
i think that was on a fortune cookie 
off to work gentlemen have a great day and may you unlook all the secrets of what ever secret your trying to unlock…
p.s. try picking the lock and if that doesn’t work bolt cutters are handy
Hendrik,
All is quiet on the nasty front for now. Earlier you mention that I can’t sustain Ernie’s speed and body muscles. One time I rolled hands with Gary and he said basically the same thing, i.e., I am empty and can’t sustain his power. How do I sustain his power from the stuffs that we just discuss so far?
Regards,
What about the ‘common sense’ body? It seems to me that during times of trouble, generations of passed down knowledge could realize certain common sense realities for their needs. You know, things like straight arms doing shake as much during stress situations as bent arms. Planting the legs in a pyramid and turning about the waist holds up better than fancy footwork. Remembering 9 things to do during an instant of combat is impossible while 3 just might be possible, etc. etc.
I think TCM, rainbows, jing patterns, etc. are interesting for scholars to studdy and lifetime addicts to play with (like books on a shelf or ships in a bottle) but for the average idiot like myself, its just a complication.
Common sense might not tweek the nose, fill the ego, or sell the video/certification scheme as well as secrets and complexities, but it has its own certain satisfaction and simple beauty.
Rene,
Common sense is what we have always. I love to fool with Hendrik and others for what they said often cause me to reflect on the nature of knowing and learning. You are being too far modest. I find what you said often has ironclad logic behind them that is very systematic and thorough.
“You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. —Plato”
Regards,
what’s common sense?
the sky is round and the earth is square?
every thing, sun, moon, stars go around the earth?
or the earth spins around the sun?
or Bong Sau is passive? avoid at all costs?
a good stance should make one glue to the ground (so Gary can kick it anytime :D)?
Can I amen to that? I threw all my common sense out of my mind when he kicked playfully against my very stable stance. It’s a frightful thing to fall victim to his kicks! Ha! Ha!
Regards,
what’s common sense?
Not very common.
See, it doesn’t matter if the earth is round or the planets circle the stars, because I’m only walking down the street, and as long as the sun comes up in the morning and sets at night, I can get a few hours training in.
And Bong Sao is just Bong Sao, like any Sao. If I hit someone in the ribs with it, and they smash into the ground, you can call it as passive as you like.
Paul, so is the mind abide by the stable stance? or by watching the kick comes?
Rene, how come some masters can Bong and throw people across the room, but many students can’t? What’s the trick? Is the master’s Bong the same as the student’s Bong?
David, with Hendrik on this thread, I feel I must answer ‘yes, as the seed is the same as the beautiful flower’, but the moron in me just figures the difference lies in experience - knowing when and where, not just how.
It can’t be in the stance or watching the kick coming. I would put my mind into attacking him regardless of what he will do to me. The problem is when pain comes to your senses, the mind quivers rather violently. Ha! Ha!
Regards,
Originally posted by reneritchie
David, with Hendrik on this thread, I feel I must answer ‘yes, as the seed is the same as the beautiful flower’, but the moron in me just figures the difference lies in experience - knowing when and where, not just how.
with Hendrik on this thread, he would probably say the student’s 3 Ying meridians aren’t flowing according to the breathing, the proper timing and the intent direction; the joints aren’t threading enough… so the Shen does not come out
Paul, from the looks of Gary’s pictures, he seems to have a good control on the student’s upper body structure before he throws his kicks…
Sometimes he just kicks relying on superior timing, or he happily trades kicks with you if he feels your kick will do little damages while his would finish you. All of these can be done without prior body control.
Regards,
yylee
common sense [ be as simple as you need to be and as complicated as you have to be ]
as for gary’s and or kicks in general ,
if you have great attributes [ timing ,distance ,speed , power , and adaptability] you canhit any one [ of lesser attributes ] with any tool at any given time .
there is no undefeatable technique or position just people and oppertunuties and luck.
as for bong sure you can send a person across the room with hell even i can hold people as they try and hang on and move it with all there force but so what , that accomplishes nothing , i should just hit them and stop screwing around .
reneAnd Bong Sao is just Bong Sao, like any Sao. If I hit someone in the ribs with it, and they smash into the ground, you can call it as passive as you like.
if a bong is a transitional motion to freeze it and strike with it , would change it’s character would it not to a elbow strike or lan perhaps ?
or Bong Sau is passive? avoid at all costs
for the record , bong has it’s place and time as all things but of the three hands tan concept ,fook concept and bong concept it is the most passive in respect to how often it comes up and how it is supposed to be used .
but i’m all for droppin elbows on people , i just consider that a bong:cool:
paul ,
give it time and you will be wipeing the floor with me and they day you do i will be more excited and happy then you
Originally posted by PaulH
[B]Sometimes he just kicks relying on superior timing, or he happily trades kicks with you if he feels your kick will do little damages while his would finish you. All of these can be done without prior body control.
Regards, [/B]
then u shall ask Hendrik about how to use the leg’s 3 Ying meridians…
YYlee,
Can you give me a sneak preview of the 3 Ying kick?
Ernie,
You know I love to play with ya!
Regards,