I’m well aware that some events allow this kind of fighting. I’m just wondering how many of our ring-fighting experts here have competed in them. You guys always use the ‘been there, done that’ defense…so how many have been there, and done that?
Like I said, setting up a straw man.
I have fought. The rules did not allow elbowing. However, I’ve no idea what the rest of the rules were because I didn’t attend the rules meeting.
It was fairly immaterial anyway because of the way the fight went. Nobody really got into a position to elbow and it went to the ground too fast for joint strikes to matter.
When have you fought?
MP, I heard you messed up the guy’s foot/ankle. I think it was Lloyd who told me the guy didn’t tap and you applied pressure until there was a loud pop. (I PMed you)
I know you have competed and done well. But I don’t see how limiting rules is immaterial to a fight, though. If the rules allowed for certain things, the fight may not have progressed as it did, and could have very well gone in a different direction. You compete enough to know what the basic rules are for the events you enter, and I’m sure the techniques you would use are based on that previous experience regardless if you attended the rules meeting or not.
I don’t compete. I don’t have the time to train to get into that kind of shape.
I don’t compete. I don’t have the time to train to get into that kind of shape.
Yeah, I gathered. But when was the last time you fought?
I dont particularly have time for tournaments, but I fight with grapllers and have been scheduling a nice long fight with a muay thai dude I know. We dont allow elbows to the face, or joint strikes, but everything else goes. We are trying to learn, not hurt each other.
But I guess that means Im just some sissy kung fu guy huh?
Edit: its not real unless its full contact with no pads…
:rolleyes:
i have work to do.
BBL
SD,
Don’t really understand your point, but whatever floats your boat.
Personally, good on yah for finding people who (presumably) know what they are doing to play with.
Masterkiller,
For what it’s worth, here’s the vid of my only fight. I don’t think rules would have made much of a difference this particular time.
http://www.apoweyn.net/martialarts/videos/jvalentine01.zip
Personally, all I can do now is look back on that and see SO MANY mistakes…
Yeah, I gathered. But when was the last time you fought?
I’ve been in 3 fights since I was 18. I had my @ss handed to me once. My last real fight was 3.5 years ago in a bar after a guy grabbed my wife’s hair. I hit him with a forearm to the mouth and he dropped. That was the extent of it.
EDIT–I’ve seen that footage. I never said you don’t have skills.
Originally posted by Merryprankster
[B]You don’t accept stupid excuses.
As for not being a drama queen, you’ve never seen me in a skirt… [/B]
Not accepting excuses goes beyond style. Enforcing BJJ is another issue altogether.
As far as you in a skirt, that visual will haunt my nightmares for years!!! 
Right. So, neither of us do this day in and day out, getting exposed to so many variables that we could possibly say anything authoritative. You can’t really speak to what might have happenned and neither can I.
All we can do is speculate.
And that’s my point about the straw man. My experiences don’t invalidate or validate yours, and vice versa. It’s not very useful to speak in terms of well, have YOU fought in ‘x’? Goes nowhere in this type of conversation.
FWIW that guy sounds like a ****. Good job
Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
[B]
Can we put the name calling and pettiness to rest now?
Maybe we don’t agree on some things Abel, but I think at the core we share many of the same fundamental opinions in regards to kung fu.
If you’re ever in DC, we’ll work out and then get drunk on mojitos and laugh. [/B]
Of course, your Majesty, maybe one day.
“I think at the core we share many of the same fundamental opinions in regards to kung fu.”
Uhhhhhhhhh, did I miss something?
That is very cool of you to post MP.
You have caught me in that on multiple occasions rolling in the past and it feels like escape is just a moment away (lack of experience on my part)… but you get so much pressure on the foot/ankle that it is either tapout or limpout 
I think what it is coming down to is what you train for.. sporting guys train for there sport, which is similar to what traditionalist train for, but not the same.. A traditionalist should (should being the operative) be able to alter his training for a sporting event, however, most do not. I don’t hold any interest in competing in a sport event anytime soon, so I don’t train to that set of rules. There are some things that I do train that I feel are ineffective for sport fighting more so than other situations. That just boils down to me as being up against another skilled fighter, with a backround (most times) in dealing with other skilled fighters. I do find it frustrating sometimes only sparring with people within my school, but I also won’t go out and spar outside of class right now as a curtisy to my teacher, whom asked me not to yet… It is to help me improve right now, he knows what he is doing, and I will be able to in the future, however he doesn’t want me to get myself in over my head with someone I don’t really know (as happend with one of his students last summer). Maybe next summer I’ll start doing the sans shou or sparring in the tournies that I go to, however, I’ll have to train for that, as my conditioning isn’t where it should be (even just for my current, let alone for something like that).
Uhhhhhhhhh, did I miss something?
Avoids knee-jerk reaction to scream “the boat” as we both know how sensitive that topic can be
Maybe we don’t agree then.?
Either way arguing on the internet, moronic name calling etc. “challenges” - it’s all crap and I don’t want any part of it, so I’m extending an olive branch to a guy I’ve obviously ****ed off in the past.
Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
[B]
Avoids knee-jerk reaction to scream “the boat” as we both know how sensitive that topic can be
Maybe we don’t agree then.?
Either way arguing on the internet, moronic name calling etc. “challenges” - it’s all crap and I don’t want any part of it, so I’m extending an olive branch to a guy I’ve obviously ****ed off in the past. [/B]
You mean as in marielito? Not that I have to validate myself to the likes of you, asshole. But I was Born in miami in '68 and my family came over on a plane in '61. Your disdain for those poor souls that came over in '80 is indicative that you are definatly from(or at least married to) that pseudo-snobbish sect that likes to hyphenate thier names in order to appear more “uppercrust”. Like it somehow erases the fact that they are refugees too. Your type makes me sick. Your use of that flag as your avatar makes me sick. You stick your olive branch up your ass, Your highness.
Here we go again.
You mean as in marielito?
Actually the thought never crossed my mind until you mentioned it. I was thinking of the very unfortunate and imho very wrong recent situation with the truck-boat scaenario and how much I detest the coast guard’s policy.
But I was Born in miami in '68 and my family came over on a plane in '61.
That’s very fortunate for your family. Did they have to leave family behind?
Your disdain for those poor souls that came over in '80 is indicative that you are definatly from(or at least married to) that pseudo-snobbish sect that likes to hyphenate thier names in order to appear more “uppercrust”.
While the name is hypenated and the family were wealthy There is certainly no distain or snobbery. Esp from my wife and myself. As I’ve told you we are supportes & contributors to many causes which almost always benefit the most recent political refugees, not the first generation who is already very substantial.
However you and I both know that what you speak of is common among the older generation and (in some cases justified) but to many yucas (young urban cuban-americans)calling someone a “marielito” is very much slang for thug, hood, n i g g a , etc.
Your type makes me sick. Your use of that flag as your avatar makes me sick. You stick your olive branch up your ass, Your highness.
Tell me how you really feel!
:rolleyes: game on! 
WD
“I neva ****ed anybody over in my life, who didn’t have it comin’ to 'im, you got that? All I have in this world is my balls, and my word, and I don’t break 'em for no one, jou understand?”