http://mma.tv/TUF/DisplayMessages.cfm?TID=258655&P=24&FID=1&c=1
(disclaimer: I don’t know anything about this event or promoter other than what has been posted at the above link)
Kung fu doesn’t translate into the ring.
I think it means Chinese Boxing
I don’t see any reference to Chinese boxing in the ad.
Kung Fu cannot be used to effectively sport box someone, and it was never intended to do so.
lol @ “too deadly for the ring” mentality.
Doesn’t Kung Fu traslante into Chinese Boxing?
“Kung Fu cannot be used to effectively sport box someone, and it was never intended to do so.”
Are you being sarcastic? I think many San Shou fighters who frequent would disagree with you.
Regardless… I did not create this thread for discussion. I posted the information because some board members have expressed interested in competing in MMA.
Doesn’t Kung Fu traslante into Chinese Boxing?
No. Kung Fu means “hard work.” Wushu means “martial art,” not sport art.
I didn’t say “too deadly.” What I’m saying is that Kung Fu was developed to take people out quickly on the battlefield. It was not developed as an endurance contest for multi-round fights.
If you can’t do things like throw elbows or forearms to the head or chest, or kick to the knees or ankles, then you are forcing a kung fu fighter into a sport fight, which he will not be prepared for.
And if throwing an elbow into someone’s nose isn’t deadly, why isn’t it allowed in the ring?
If you can’t do things like throw elbows or forearms to the head or chest, or kick to the knees or ankles, then you are forcing a kung fu fighter into a sport fight, which he will not be prepared for.
And if throwing an elbow into someone’s nose isn’t deadly, why isn’t it allowed in the ring?
Many MMA organizations allow most or all that you have described. When elbows are allowed to the face (all UFC fights since the beginning) they are indeed allowed to the nose. In the thousands of MMA fights that allow elbows to the nose not a single death has occured as a result of such a blow.
I must ask again, are you being sarcastic, trolling, etc?
Deadly was ST00’s term, not mine. I used the term loosely to point out competition rules are installed to watch out for the fighter’s safety.
San Shou is a different beast all together. It IS intended for competition.
… I’m thinking I’m just going to ignore you
Like I said before, I did not create this thread for discussion.
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I’m sorry, but that’s just dumb. If you can’t get what you do in the kwoon to work right in the ring you’re long on tricks and short on basics.
Finally, you can elbow, knee and attack the joints in many contests.
Sorry to do this to you, MK, but I’m forced to agree with the Drama queen and the BJJ enforcers.
CTMA has been called Chinese boxing in the past. There is no reason why a person couldn’t enter in these types of events if so inclined. To punch, kick, throw, etc, is not beneath us or beyond us. Kung fu is not some arcane magical system, it is fighting plain and simple.
San shou was created BY TCMA as an avenue for free fighting. If they want to make it something else now, they can go ahead and rewrite history if they want.
There are only so many ways you can punch, kick, throw, etc, anyways.
If talking sense labels me a BJJ Enforcer, so be it 
Heck, you’re 80% BJJ enforcer yourself. It’s just the other 20% I’ve got trouble with…
How am I a BJJ enforcer?
At least you are not a drama queen.
You don’t accept stupid excuses.
As for not being a drama queen, you’ve never seen me in a skirt…
Kung fu is not some arcane magical system, it is fighting plain and simple.
I never claimed otherwise. Fighting is not the same as boxing, though.
Just curious, how many grapplers on this forum have ever competed in a NHB tourny where elbows to the face and kicks to the joints were allowed?
to agree with the Drama queen
Can we put the name calling and pettiness to rest now?
Maybe we don’t agree on some things Abel, but I think at the core we share many of the same fundamental opinions in regards to kung fu.
If you’re ever in DC, we’ll work out and then get drunk on mojitos and laugh.
Masterkiller, before you act like you know what you are talking about, maybe consult some facts?
San Shou was created by the Chinese MILITARY for close quarters combat.
I know, you are still trying to blow that chicken up at 30 yards with your deadly chi blast…
The “too deadly” crap is such a joke, no wonder most of you can’t last more than a minute in a real fighting event
I know, you are still trying to blow that chicken up at 30 yards with your deadly chi blast…
When have I ever claimed anything to support this accusation?
San Shou was created by the Chinese MILITARY for close quarters combat.
OK. In their infinite wisdom, did they decide that kicking joints and throwing elbows would not occur in a real combat situation?
Just curious, how many grapplers on this forum have ever competed in a NHB tourny where elbows to the face and kicks to the joints were allowed?
I haven’t, but plenty have. IVT in Brazil allows everything except eyegouging and biting, including headbutts, UFC allows elbows to the face both standing and on the ground. It also allows striking to the joints.
Prides rules, while not allowing elbows, do allow knee strikes to the head on the ground, as well as soccer kicks to the head of a downed opponent to make up for that.
But, since you’re setting up a straw man anyway, how about you tell us how many MMA events you’ve been in at all? I mean, one good straw man deserves another!