Originally posted by Royal Dragon
I think if you look close, you can see the difference in the footwork. […] It is more “Sunk in” for lack of a better word. It has great mobility, but if you look close you see the correct stances being performed, even if they are higher up. Power is issued in the Chinese way. A boxer/Kick Boxer moves totally differnent.
No, I agree. There are definitely some good underlying KF principles - whether he got that from KF training or not. This reinforces my point about KF techniques being “tightened up” for combat. You can see the principles, but they are not as big and bold as one might see in traditional KF practice.
I was referring more to his tactical approach than specific techniques when comparing him to a kickboxer.
Originally posted by Royal Dragon
At this point, if I can find GOOD Kung Fu in actual free fighting, even if it’s bad photagraphy, I’ll use it.
I’ll see what I can do.
-B
Originally posted by Royal Dragon
You notice how after the throw, the Bagua guy is repeatedly right there with his foot about to stomp the attackers head? See, this is a point I have been trying to make in the past about Kung Fu. Our ground fighting IS too brutal for the ring. In real life the attacker would have gotten his face smashed in wile he was still happlessly rolling on the ground. I don’t think your even allowed to do that in the UFC. Heck, at one point, it looks like the Bagua guy lost his balance a bit because he was trying to miss stomping on his head for safety’s sake. It’s actually harder to miss, that it is to actually go through and crush his head. I could just Imagine what those Baji guys would do if in that position, with all the foot stomping they do in training and all.
The stomping is used by the Chute Boxe guys (wich are MT academy adapted to mma competition). Wanderlei Silva and Murilo Ninja ive seen using it pretty good on Pride, probably other fighters too.
I think ST has only been wrong about a San Shou fact a few times and then only slightly.
Thank you Guru. I’d like to think that I am a credible san shou & grappling resource.
btw: How did the Boston team do @ the Arnolds?
6-1, Five Golds, 3 in Women’s A and two in Men’s B. Albert Pope won his super fight against Jose Palacious from Cung’s.
Great job! Congrats.
Pope is a great fighter. Just amazingly well-rounded, smart and great at clean throwing techniques.
I find it interesting that all the guys with a fight or two under their belts have similar comments.
Well I have a fight or 32 so I guess you don’t mean me.
San Shou + BJJ = Next Generation of MMA fighters. It’s only a matter of time.
I have most of it and will get the rest soon Sun. I’ll send a copy to Julio.
You may be right MarryP.
I’ve been thinking that too for some time MP. The only thing to add might be the Thai elbows and knees.
Chute Boxe beats Sanshou + bjj ALL THE TIME
The only thing to add might be the Thai elbows and knees.
San Da has those as well. As Guru has mentioned prior, Amateurs in the “A” class san shou use knees.
Actually ST in this event knee were only allowed in the super fights. IWF still does not allow knees from what I know so that is the rules we were using.
Oh, didn’t realize this, thanks ST00
Chute Boxe beats Sanshou + bjj ALL THE TIME
A lie. The two have never crossed paths in a ring event. When will Xingyi be making an appearance vs. either Xebs? I’d pay for comedy like that.
Chute box IS san da (anything goes standup)+ bjj.
Since I’m in a mood to rant vs. xebs and other traditinal morons I’d like to point out something that I find most ironic and amusing.
Grapplers are able to keep a fight standing up much better than traditional strikers can.
Chute Boxe is so sweet i want to crap my pants, its SUPER MUY THAI SUPERIOR TO SHOW-SHOU
NP - No problem. I always enjoy talking to people who speak on fact based evidence and can readily admit when they have made an error or can see that another person’s views have truth that cannot be disputed.
It shows self confidence and mutual respect.
The pleasure was mine.
So, are there any digized video clips ANYWHERE on the net that show Kuo Shuo fighting, or actual Kung Fu being used anywhere?