Dear all,
Some of those people were using the techniques they have learnt in their classes in those (light contact) sparring matches. However, I noticed that some people from those organisations were fighting like amateur kick boxers (on youtube), when they put on gloves and protective clothing in full contact sparring matches. They seem to have forgotten everything they had learnt.
My question is if they could apply their techniques in light contact sparring matches or against their fellow classmates in light contact sparring matches, then how come they abandoned their techniques when fighting in full contact sparring matches?
This does not make any sense.
Because kickboxing is the most natural way for the body to fight. It doesn’t use any convoluted movements, doesn’t mimic animals, and it doesn’t follow preset methods based on theory.
That said, it could also be that the folks just don’t perform well under pressure. A lot of folks are great at applying their techniques against little to moderate pressure, but when given REAL pressure they collapse either because their skill level isn’t high enough, or because the technique or theory is flawed.
[QUOTE=Vankuen;1018920]BUT he said thank you very much at the end which implies sincerity!!! :p[/QUOTE]
However all his videos were of kempo and karate fights. point sparring. he actually didn’t even post any good kickboxing videos. so, we can assume he’s trolling seeing as he doesn’t seem to understand what it is he is badmouthing.
anyway, hitman is one more of kfm’s lame ass trolls that’s been hanging around too long.
we have a habit feeding them here though. For the laughs.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1018942]Bawang (dave) do you know how i know you’re gay? LOL[/QUOTE]
you do know that bawang and Dave are not the same person, right? (I’ve communicated off forum w/bawang via e-mail, he’s in Toronto)
it’s just one of HW108’s running commentaries where he keeps making that claim;
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1018945]you do know that bawang and Dave are not the same person, right? (I’ve communicated off forum w/bawang via e-mail, he’s in Toronto)
it’s just one of HW108’s running commentaries where he keeps making that claim;[/QUOTE]
Actually, he is in Guelph, a “suburb” of Toronto, in a manner of speaking.
He is as much Dave as I am, or you are or Frank is.
Then again…
you do know that bawang and Dave are not the same person, right? (I’ve communicated off forum w/bawang via e-mail, he’s in Toronto)
it’s just one of HW108’s running commentaries where he keeps making that claim;
It’s all good. I can’t lie though, i find it funny that his accent gets lost at times, while other times he sounds like he’s trying to be a fob.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1018948]Actually, he is in Guelph, a “suburb” of Toronto, in a manner of speaking.
He is as much Dave as I am, or you are or Frank is.
Then again…[/QUOTE]
I think this thread is actually a really good question in principle. I have seen many kung fu schools where peoples technical skills are good, but then they strap up and they literally just use kickboxing, even when they have never really trained any.
Obviously this is instantly flawed. As soon as they throw any a boxing style attack, if it is palmed and countered, then the attacker is in a bad situation. Because from their current position none of their kung fu guarding techniques will work because they have already violated their principles by throwing that style of punch in the first place. The only way for them to defend themselves is by using a boxing style defense, which of course they are woefully under practiced in. So why do they use the Boxing style attack in the first place?
I think it is because kung fu tends to have less attacking strategies and more in defense.
The situation of the ring is very bizarre. Because you are forced into attacking frequently.
In all the real dangerous fights I have experienced (been in or watched) there has always been a clear cut attacker and defender. And it always starts from an unexpected position, as in never from two guys bouncing around on their toes squaring up. Those are the fights that can be avoided. The nasty ones tend to start from someone getting hit unexpectedly.
Anyway there is always someone relentlessly attacking. This doesn’t happen in ring fights, if someone is defended they will retreat momentarily and rethink their strategy. In actual combat this doesn’t happen. If their attack failed they (the attacker) tends to attack again and again. Its these situations where kung fu technique becomes more useful. But in the unnatural situation of bouncing around in a ring being forced to attack kung fu fast becomes less useful than more kickboxing like styles.
I think this is why kung fu finds it hard to find a place in modern style matches. Because it is simply not designed for this type of situation.
So I think kung fu sparring is best done from contact, like beginning with your hands crossed. If you made people do this I will bet they will use much more kung fu technique than if forced to bounce around facing each other.
