I put up some vids for ya all

messing around with the flip cam after a good Judo / Grappling work out and decided to share some 7 Star Praying Mantis Kung Fu.

Diu Sau / Ou Lou Choi - my take on it.

Ou Lou Choi “Patty Cake” Warm-Up Drill

Belt Wheel Take Down - easy and fun for anybody regardless of style.

So the last one’s not Mantis - but it’s still cool.

Very nicely done videos B! Good explanation of au lau choi too.

Way to throw us “kung fu guys” a bone on the Belt Wheel video heheheh :smiley:

So, speaking of au lau choi, is the only difference between it and choi sum sao the name? From what I can tell, sifu uses the two interchangeably but maybe I’m not picking up on some nuance?

Nice vids, B. Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Codeboy;1128118]Very nicely done videos B! Good explanation of au lau choi too.

Way to throw us “kung fu guys” a bone on the Belt Wheel video heheheh :smiley:

So, speaking of au lau choi, is the only difference between it and choi sum sao the name? From what I can tell, sifu uses the two interchangeably but maybe I’m not picking up on some nuance?[/QUOTE]

You got it - just the name. “A rose by any other name…”

Liked that belt wheel did ya? Yeah - it’s a good one that no one uses too much anymore, so they don’t know how to defend it. I don’t know why it’s not used because it’s super easy.

The big points I was trying to make on the diu sau was the vertical space covered by the forearm in case you miss the catch you’ll still get the deflection, that it’s receiving and not so much reaching, and that au lou choi is one continuous motion.

Thanks for sharing :slight_smile:
It’s nice to see the commonalities that many MA share.

Nice work!

Look familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6sY7pOlDQ&feature=related

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1128258]Look familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6sY7pOlDQ&feature=related[/QUOTE]

He’s obviously a bad@ss and a brilliant man.

Much like myself. :smiley:

[QUOTE=MightyB;1128262]He’s obviously a bad@ss and a brilliant man.

Much like myself. :D[/QUOTE]

Well said my friend :slight_smile:

you ever throw anyone off that balcony your on in training? Now that would be super awesome and the chicks would love it. :smiley:

[QUOTE=MightyB;1128195]The big points I was trying to make on the diu sau was the vertical space covered by the forearm in case you miss the catch you’ll still get the deflection, that it’s receiving and not so much reaching, and that au lou choi is one continuous motion.[/QUOTE]

If you slightly decrease the vertical space and reach more from greater distance, your motion will be faster and more aggressive.

I don’t worry too much on receiving. Easier to take the fight to the other person.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1128258]Look familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6sY7pOlDQ&feature=related[/QUOTE]

I’m told that Japanese don’t consider Goju as “real” karate.

[QUOTE=-N-;1128306]I’m told that Japanese don’t consider Goju as “real” karate.[/QUOTE]

It is, quite possibly, the most Okinawan of Karate systems.
Not sure where you got that though.
I’ve never heard that.
Sure they tend to favour shotokan for obvious historical reasons, but I have never head that said of Goju.

thats because they are to proud of thier culture to admit karate came from china.

I have heard this too but only from die hard japanese as I used to be practice GoJu for many years, but it reminds me of the too proud americans makng thier stupid claims about this country and igroning obvious facts.

[QUOTE=MightyB;1128026]messing around with the flip cam after a good Judo / Grappling work out and decided to share some 7 Star Praying Mantis Kung Fu.

Diu Sau / Ou Lou Choi - my take on it.[/QUOTE]

We have in our Angry Monkey Fist a similar Hook / Control / Strike. I like to call it Hook, Slap Strike though. The first hand is more a deflecting hook hand (Not a Dui Sau). The second is more of an Iron Palm Slap to redirect the arm. Then there is the strike, which can be any hand (Fist, Back Hand, Finger Jab etc) does not matter. You can see it a little here at about 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKuZpw8tteM&feature=player_embedded#!

Good stuff MightyB !

ginosifu

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1128315]thats because they are to proud of thier culture to admit karate came from china.

I have heard this too but only from die hard japanese as I used to be practice GoJu for many years, but it reminds me of the too proud americans makng thier stupid claims about this country and igroning obvious facts.[/QUOTE]

in 1998 Goju was named a Koryu and a Bujutsu stye by the Dai Nippon, so I am NOT sure where ANY japanese would get that view, unless they were making it up themselves.
Of course my time in Japan was devoted to Judo and Kyokushin and since kyokushin came from Goju, no one ever had anything bad to say about it.

[QUOTE=-N-;1128304]If you slightly decrease the vertical space and reach more from greater distance, your motion will be faster and more aggressive.

I don’t worry too much on receiving. Easier to take the fight to the other person.[/QUOTE]

Agreed! My school doesn’t use gou lou chui defensively, as much as we train it aggressively.

Though nice points Kurt! I do like how you do it and it is reminiscent of how I was taught to do it in 7* by Sifu Biggie.

Here are a couple of vids of how I teach it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WavZrEtUCI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRT3oAW9w2w

Note: I demonstrate these very slowly. Flying through the techniques may look more impressive, but I put these vids up for my students to review a lesson, so I do the techniques at “grandpa speed”. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1128335]in 1998 Goju was named a Koryu and a Bujutsu stye by the Dai Nippon, so I am NOT sure where ANY japanese would get that view, unless they were making it up themselves.
Of course my time in Japan was devoted to Judo and Kyokushin and since kyokushin came from Goju, no one ever had anything bad to say about it.[/QUOTE]

i really respect the uechi ryu guys because they still recognize and respect the chinese roots

i dont like shotokan, they even add phony kobudo rythm to their kata

[QUOTE=ginosifu;1128332]We have in our Angry Monkey Fist a similar Hook / Control / Strike. I like to call it Hook, Slap Strike though. The first hand is more a deflecting hook hand (Not a Dui Sau). The second is more of an Iron Palm Slap to redirect the arm. Then there is the strike, which can be any hand (Fist, Back Hand, Finger Jab etc) does not matter. You can see it a little here at about 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKuZpw8tteM&feature=player_embedded#!

Good stuff MightyB !

ginosifu[/QUOTE]

Sun Wukung Dancing on Clouds for the win!!!

I have always believed that for the “Lou” of the “Gou Lou Cai”, the “tiger mouth - between your thumb and your 1st finger” should face to your opponent and not face to yourself. You control your opponent’s arm like holding a baseball bat (like Taiji Lu). It’s much easier to change it into a shoulder lock or elbow lock. Also you can control your opponent’s leading arm much better.

What do you guys think about this?