Constructing a purely TCMA MMA? Can it be done?

[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1054315]“Teabagging”:confused:[/QUOTE]

grass-roots political movement formed in response to the socialist-fascist leanings of the US government; perhaps you haven’t heard, but the current US administration has been consistently eroding our basic freedoms by passing legislation to get insurance companies to not deny applicants with prior medical conditions or drop them in the middle of treatments, or to try to regulate big oil companies more tightly so that they are held accountable for massive environmental disasters, or by bailing out the banks (oh no, wait, that was mostly the PRIOR administration doing most of that, sorry); but that’s what you get when you elect a socialist, Hitler-loving, closet Muslim who was born outside the USl (maybe; well, ok, probably he isn’t any of those things really, but we can always hope…)

i know what i dont wanna be. an autistic mexcian wing chunner.

[RIGHT][/RIGHT][QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1054299]yeah, either one really kills the mood on a first date…[/QUOTE]

Crossing the legs can be a mood killer, but I would not say the same about “turning of the back”…:smiley:

[QUOTE=bawang;1054327]i know what i dont wanna be. an autistic mexcian wing chunner.[/QUOTE]

Well, you are over half way there, all you have to do now is to apply for Mexican citizenship and find a Wing Chun McKwoon (ask for advice from any of the MMA-ists with “experience” in Wing Chun, who post here;)), and you will be there.

Best of luck.

you left mexico because everyone over there hates you. dirty illegal.

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1054326]grass-roots political movement formed in response to the socialist-fascist leanings of the US government; perhaps you haven’t heard, but the current US administration has been consistently eroding our basic freedoms by passing legislation to get insurance companies to not deny applicants with prior medical conditions or drop them in the middle of treatments, or to try to regulate big oil companies more tightly so that they are held accountable for massive environmental disasters, or by bailing out the banks[/quote]

Oh, I have heard alright. The current US government, with the puppet, Obama, is carrying out the Fascist agenda that has been in place for a long time now.

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1054326](oh no, wait, that was mostly the PRIOR administration doing most of that, sorry); [/quote]
The only difference between the prior government and this one is that the psychopathic puppet sitting at the top has been changed, and of course, that includes some cosmetic “party line” changes.

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1054326]but that’s what you get when you elect a socialist, Hitler-loving, closet Muslim who was born outside the USl (maybe; well, ok, probably he isn’t any of those things really, but we can always hope…)[/QUOTE]

I believe that Obama was SELECTED long before the American people “elected” him. He is carrying out a long term agenda. When people were getting fed up with G.W. Bush, the powers that be, replaced him with a member of the minorities and now everyone is sitting back and letting the same agenda continue, while waiting for hope and “change”, to make everything alright…

Quite sad, really…

Perhaps the Tea Partiers mean well, but I hear that they have been infiltrated and that is exactly how threats to the system are dealt with by the powers that be, but of course, they always keep the discrediting and assassination (through plane crashes, accidents, etc.), option open.

hum… wow douchbag turned this into a political rant… Didn’t see that coming. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1054250]These 2 clips are very similiar.

TCMA way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMvYa_ecSo

MMA way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncANIwIvO4k&feature=fvw[/QUOTE]

sorry but they are not similar at all, one has control and one does not, one will work and one will get you laughed at for trying

Wow, I did not know. That is a lot of money. Is this the price for high quality imported Chinese tea? And have you tasted it? Is the taste to your liking?[/QUOTE]

The most expensive tea that I like is only $200 a pound. I don’t feel like to spend more than that. Can I truely taste the difference? I’m not so sure.

My Sifu’s passions are Gung-Fu and tea. He once brewed some 1200. a pound tea,
and shared it with me. I have to say, my palate for fine tea is not as developed as his. yecch…give me a nice strong bo-lay cha and I’m a happy guy.

prefer the jasmine myself…

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1054592]prefer the jasmine myself…[/QUOTE]

Why doesn’t that surprise me?:smiley:

[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1054276]I think that in some cases it may be a genetic freak, in others it may be focused training in a given aspect of a given TCMA.

Imagine if you had spent all your MA career training various styles of Tiger Claw, together with their Iron Skills, and under genuine Tiger masters, and with the same intensity and dedication that you trained your other MAs. I bet that you would have now had a viscious claw and penetrative power (no jokes please:D)![/QUOTE]

Indeed AND if I was genetically predisposed to a strong grib, even more so.
But here is the thing, even in TCMA circles, how many tiger claw guys are there?
Quiet a few if one inculdes all the systems that have the tiger claw and all of them train the tiger claw, but how many, even in anecdotes, have the “real” ™ Tiger claw?
Very, very few.

Well, Tigers ARE endangered.

Also have you ever seen a cat use one claw to pin a mouse?

That’s teh realz tc right there.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1054827]Indeed AND if I was genetically predisposed to a strong grib, even more so.
But here is the thing, even in TCMA circles, how many tiger claw guys are there?
Quiet a few if one inculdes all the systems that have the tiger claw and all of them train the tiger claw, but how many, even in anecdotes, have the “real” ™ Tiger claw?
Very, very few.[/QUOTE]

Good point.

When one thinks about this, one must ask, how many of the Tiger Claw guys have had access to real deal masters to start with, and how many trained with the same dedication as you, and others like you, have during the past decades?

I guess it is a question of having the dedication and being lucky enough to find a sifu who can actually teach you the methodologies in a correct, concise and multi-level manner.

Unfortunately nowadays, it is very difficult for people to have this long term view and training dedication regarding an art that will give one benefits in a relatively longer term than one can find with other more modern MAs.

Then there is again the question of finding genuine instruction in a world of TCMAs where the general quality of instruction is so poor that schools of just fair quality instruction, occupy the top of the pyramid, at least in most of what one sees in the “public domain”.

So, we end up with Tiger Claw practitioners who do not have the “claw”. SPM practitioners who lack the Internal body unity to manifest maximum shock power; we have WC practitioners who cannot handle all ranges of combat, and are not familiar with the deeper aspects of concepts such as softness, sensitivity etc.; and so on.

So in the end, we have a situation that TCMA schools of just “acceptable” quality are seen as the benchmarks, while the very, very few top level TCMA schools fly under the radar, so to speak, because ironically even most of the people who call themselves TCMA-ists do not, for lack of reference, recognize the real deal kwoons, even when they are lucky enough to come across them.

The situation is rather sad, but hopefully through forums like this the lesser known aspects of the TCMA practices can be viewed and “studied”, so that the TCMA community can become better familiarized with the lesser known aspects of o the various kung fu methodologies:).

On the OTHER hand, it could also be the case of highly specialised skill(s) made famous by a small number ( or even just one) genetic freak.
Wouldn’t be the first time…
Every system has the “Bak Mei”, their Wong Fei Hong, their insert ancient master with uber-skills here.
But how many of even THEIR direct students were able to immulate them?
None.
And these are just ANECDOTES, notice how little one hears about things like this NOW, where everything is easily documented and easily proven OR disproven.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1055023]On the OTHER hand, it could also be the case of highly specialised skill(s) made famous by a small number ( or even just one) genetic freak.
Wouldn’t be the first time…
Every system has the “Bak Mei”, their Wong Fei Hong, their insert ancient master with uber-skills here.
But how many of even THEIR direct students were able to immulate them?
None.
And these are just ANECDOTES, notice how little one hears about things like this NOW, where everything is easily documented and easily proven OR disproven.[/QUOTE]

Based on what I have seen personally from sifus, I would say that many people who learn special abilities of skills, do not go and “make a name for themselves”, like some of the famous past masters who may have been involved in actictivities that put them in the public eye during the era they lived.

I really believe that some these people work on a given skill and when they have it, they add other stuff to it, in a path towards self development, rather than necessarily going out there to use their skills, that is, unless the trouble comes searching for them.

I am saying what I said based on what I have seen. I am sure that you and others may have a different take on all of this.

[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1055030]Based on what I have seen personally from sifus, I would say that many people who learn special abilities of skills, do not go and “make a name for themselves”, like some of the famous past masters who may have been involved in actictivities that put them in the public eye during the era they lived.

I really believe that some these people work on a given skill and when they have it, they add other stuff to it, in a path towards self development, rather than necessarily going out there to use their skills, that is, unless the trouble comes searching for them.

I am saying what I said based on what I have seen. I am sure that you and others may have a different take on all of this.[/QUOTE]

One wonders how those of time long past seemed to have “made a name for themselves” then…

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1055032]One wonders how those of time long past seemed to have “made a name for themselves” then…[/QUOTE]

I guess some lived in situations and eras that put them in the public eye, such as soldiers/generals during periods of war, or revolutionaries, and so on.