Where do you position ur wu sau when u do a hight bong sau?
a lot of yip man lineage keep their wu sau half way distance of the bong
WC like Yuen kay San WC keep their wu sau very near of the bong sau arm like a reinforcing…
whats the pro and cons (good and bad for each position:confused:
Wu sao is the rear guard. It supports the front lines however it can.
Wu sao can combine with bong sao to defend against a punch - for example, if the bong was not strong enough or not on time, the wu sao can divert the remaining energy left or right from centre.
It can also combine with bong sao to form various kwan saos, or binding hands.
I like to have the Wu sao shape “float” at the level of my other arm’s elbow, between the centreline and inside of the other arm. It’s pretty versatile.
[QUOTE=Steeeve;972970]Where do you position ur wu sau when u do a hight bong sau?
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I kind of don’t believe in a high Bong Sau. I don’t think Bong Sau should be for anything above the neck.
With that being said, regardless of where my Bong Sau is, my Wu Sau is roughly where it is in the retracted portion of my Siu Nim Tao - not on MY centreline per se, but pointing at my opponent.
wu sau position should be dictated by necessity, if it has to go forward it should (possibly as a tan sau to form kwan sau) if it goes forwrd without reason it is inefficient and tying up your own hands needlessly. High bong sau is replaced in some schools with bui sau.
I don’t think it is a matter of lineage at all. I think it is more a personal thing.
Dont know YKS wc-just a good version of Ip man wc
[QUOTE=Steeeve;972970]Where do you position ur wu sau when u do a hight bong sau?
a lot of yip man lineage keep their wu sau half way distance of the bong
WC like Yuen kay San WC keep their wu sau very near of the bong sau arm like a reinforcing…
whats the pro and cons (good and bad for each position:confused:[/QUOTE]
You first have to have a good well balanced wing chun body structure-without which "techniques’"can break down. The mutually supporting positions of bong and wu would then depend on whether you are facing your own shadow or facing someone else.
joy chaudhuri
the first actions of the forms are man & vu , wrists xing the line. not hi / lo gaun sao’s 
the rear vu x’s the centerline at the wrist, making the vu sit by the bicep/elbow of the bong sao, whatever the height.
vu-sao is an attacking position, not defensive, bong is a way to recover the bridged arm …as the bong deflects and the elbow drops to become a strike [as chi-sao] the vu strikes out…
if the bong doesnt work , u lop 
if it is working you dont need to lop from vu, just strike iow attack..dont do 2 defensive actions in sequence…
by xing the line with the wrists we strike along the line intersecting anything on it …without thinking.
By hight bong i mean a bong to the shoulder level or in the middle body…i agrree a biu sau for hight attack is good
What the used of bong sau:confused: …for me its for jamming the attack thats not a block just a interception a set up …like the kwun sau …with the wu sau near of the bong arms u could lop sau or hit more fast
with the wu here we dont talk about the used with the footwork…
I agree. If the attack is high, a bong sao is not the appropriate response to it..according to what i’ve learned that is.
a high attack doesn’t have the right pressure to create the bong sao reaction…when it’s high, you just hit.
[QUOTE=couch;972978]I kind of don’t believe in a high Bong Sau. I don’t think Bong Sau should be for anything above the neck.
With that being said, regardless of where my Bong Sau is, my Wu Sau is roughly where it is in the retracted portion of my Siu Nim Tao - not on MY centreline per se, but pointing at my opponent.[/QUOTE]
well now
When we speak of
Wu Sau and Bong Sau…
Aren’t we really talking about form of Kau Sau or Kwan Sau?
or
Is this what you mean???
Yes Yoshi
for the wu position with the bong the last photos …and the finger hand of the bong is toward the opponent…kan sau or gwun sau is a derivate of the bong sau and wu sau
position
using 2 hands to fight one isolated & flanked arm is NOT a skill
No Yoshi, I don’t think they are the same. Not used the same anyway. When you bong sao, it is usually when you are not in position to tan or bil sao or whatever. Seldom higher then shoulder and never lower than the belly. At least the way I use it. The wu remains on the center of your incoming opponent. When you bong you do so on your own center line, but to avoid being hit in the face or chest you also shift to your oposite side slightly, but the wu does not follow that shift, but remains exactly where it should be, facing your oponent. I think someone already said that. It should be somewhere around your upper arm between shoulder and elbow. If you use that hand to grab with, it is in proper position, and should you need to block or parry another incoming punch you have your hand in proper position still.
LCP
u use it for strike:) ur wusau is there for reinforce ur jamming with the bong and he strike …bong sau is use for crash in ur opponent for unbalanced him not for block for cover…or for emergency situation for retreat
here what i mean about the wu sau position with bong
[QUOTE=k gledhill;973764]using 2 hands to fight one isolated & flanked arm is NOT a skill ;)[/QUOTE]
i used one hands to cover one hand to attack…that skill:D
k gledhill-just out of curiosity, why do you substitute v for w? I can understand why some use it to write ving tsun, but why carry it over to other words that require a w?
Because he’s speaking Cherman - LOL!
Roberts got me there ! hah VU sao !
steeeve one hand to cover one to attack is fine posing with kau sao and VU sao is silly.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;974057]k gledhill-just out of curiosity, why do you substitute v for w? I can understand why some use it to write ving tsun, but why carry it over to other words that require a w?[/QUOTE]
I learned one version of why Wing Chun was changed to Ving Tsun (though no Cantonese speaker will use the V sound). What have other people learned?
What gets me is why people spell Yip Man, Ip Man? It’s clearly pronounced Yip in Cantonese.