Wing Chun & Anti Grappling

**I seriously doubt it, WC was blindsided, sandbagged, and totally surprised. IMO what happened did not prove a thing except some people have no scruples

Videos don’t lie. No matter what you may feel personally. What if you were "blindsided, sandbagged, and gasp!… totally suprised in a fight?! In the real world, that’s how things happen. No one is going to announce they are about to beat you down, or stab you, or shoot you…not if they have real intentions on hurting or killing you. William should have expected what came, and should not have blamed his shoes for lack of preparation.

Beyond that…it was a long time ago…and really has no relevance now.

Hello Vankuen,

QUOTE]Originally posted by Vankuen
[B]Videos don’t lie. No matter what you may feel personally. What if you were "blindsided, sandbagged, and gasp!… totally suprised in a fight?! In the real world, that’s how things happen. No one is going to announce they are about to beat you down, or stab you, or shoot you…not if they have real intentions on hurting or killing you.

**I agree 1000 %! Usually the sucker punch comes out of nowhere. Been on both ends of that spectrum.

William should have expected what came, and should not have blamed his shoes for lack of preparation.

**LOL, I think his problem was a little deeper than that. Still it was a pretty cheap shot regardless of what your politics are.

Beyond that…it was a long time ago…and really has no relevance now. [/B][/QUOTE]

**I believe someone brought it up to justify the argument tha tall fights go to ground. Guess I am just plain lucky that the few unfortunate incidences that I have been involved in didnt, ;).

Dave c

I believe someone brought it up to justify the argument tha tall fights go to ground.

No… they brought it up to show that being trained is no guarantee of anything.

MP wrote:

No… they brought it up to show that being trained is no guarantee of anything.

**Exactly. I think it was Wong Sheung Leung that said that “fighting is gambling”. All our training does is increase our chances but it doesn’t guarantee an outcome.

I believe someone brought it up to justify the argument tha tall fights go to ground.

No. I brought it up to show that on a bad day even one of the most prominent WC guys in the world can get taken down, and that once down he was unable to effectively respond, despite being very highly skilled at WC, and that the supposed thermonuclear options of eye gouging, biting and groin squeezing were also available to him.

What are these “tall fights”, anyway? :smiley:

I think it was Wong Sheung Leung that said that “fighting is gambling”.

He didn’t make it up. Another KF teacher of 40 years experience I know uses the white tiger as his spirit animal, as have several generations of teachers before him, for may reasons, but among them the notion that the white tiger is the mascot of gamblers, reminding us that all combat is a gamble.