Why no respect....

True that the ONLY people I’ve seen put down Kung Fu in print are you, sifu Ross, and JKD people.

And my own Sifu, actually. LOLOL, since I always take the other side here on the main forum. Well he respects it, values it, but feels there are better ways to train.

But among those people who actually fight, is it simple stylistic chauvinism? Beating on the drum of their own style??

In other words, if you take a competitive wrestler, will he put down full-contact Kung Fu, but say that full-contact Karate is valid?? Huh?

remember, San Shou IS full-contact Kung-Fu.
San Shou IS Chinese martial arts. So you can hardly say that you don’t respect CMA and then turn around and practice San Shou.

I thought he was calling me Osama because my last name is Laden…

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
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Sorry, we don’t. I’m not trying to be a jerk, just poining out the cold hard facts.

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:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
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Joining the USKBA was a huge step in the right direction IMNSHO. [/B]
i agree… will we get cool Viper gear fight shorts like KoSD in China get the cool Red Bull shorts!!!.. and not the MMA undies… i don’t get down like that…

fa_jing… why do u hate America?.. and my thread :smiley:

True that the ONLY people I’ve seen put down Kung Fu in print are you, sifu Ross, and JKD people.

Is that because we are your only exposure to full contact combat sports? If you hang out with “paper tigers” you’re not going to hear anything contrary are you?

Same with you old jing.. :rolleyes: yourself.

But among those people who actually fight, is it simple stylistic chauvinism? Beating on the drum of their own style??

No It’s a wake-up alarm that’s been going off since 1993 and for some reason you guys just haven’t heard it! (drunk on chi?)

Originally posted by lkfmdc
Today, kung fu is literally the laughing stock of the martial arts world

The martial arts world is a lot bigger than what you concieve of it.Do you really think the sport fighting circle (sometimes it could be called “circus”) and some morons opinions on the internet have some real value?..

Those who have no respect for others with different views deserve no respect.

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00

Same with you old jing.. :rolleyes: yourself.

Rolls used that line once!..:rolleyes:

and some morons opinions on the internet have some real value?..
it does when those morons contribute to you getting or not getting paid… those morons buy fight tickets… PPV specials… products that companies PAY $$$ to advertise… which a tiny wennie part of all that $$$ gets in the fighters hands…

Originally posted by Suntzu
it does when those morons contribute to you getting or not getting paid… those morons buy fight tickets… PPV specials… products that companies PAY $$$ to advertise… which a tiny wennie part of all that $$$ gets in the fighters hands…

It’s a business.And when the great fighters are past their prime…To the waste basket!..It interest 1% of the population anyway.

Sorry Suntzu for the threadjack, but it is relavent because guys like ST00 seem to think that the best way to promote San Shou is to downplay it’s association with CMA…

To ST00 - thank you for phrasing your remarks in the form of questions, rather than accusing me directly…it saved me from getting annoyed…

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
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Is that because we are your only exposure to full contact combat sports?

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Nope. I’ve fought full contact, nothing special but you’ll see the clips soon. My teacher has had a much longer ring fighting career than, I think, anyone on this forum. Like I said, he (and I) prefer to juice up the Kung Fu with pads and gloves and mats, as well as import some other methods that are not Chinese in origin. Nevertheless, I am detecting a basic difference in attitude and respectfulness towards the traditional ways between him and you. Perhaps it is just the way that you like to shake things up on the internet. I’m sure 2 pages down we’ll get you to admit, as you have before, that you love your Jow Ga sifu and that there are real good Kung Fu guys in the States, just very very few.


If you hang out with “paper tigers” you’re not going to hear anything contrary are you?

I don’t hang out with paper tigers. My exposure to real retro-style TMA comes from Master Kwan, it’s his kwoon we trained at- in China, he broke nearly every bone in his body training, and sat in a horse stance for a year before they taught him anything. He did compete in some kickboxing comps as well as appeared in a couple HK flicks. Bad, bad mutherf.


Same with you old jing.. :rolleyes: yourself.

Old Jong’s second response is 100% correct as far as I am concerned.


No It’s a wake-up alarm that’s been going off since 1993 and for some reason you guys just haven’t heard it! (drunk on chi?)
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True that most martial artists need a wake-up call. Your input is appreciated, but you need to tone down your rhetoric - it is not logically consistent.

The martial arts world is a lot bigger than what you concieve of it.Do you really think the sport fighting circle (sometimes it could be called “circus”) and some morons opinions on the internet have some real value?..

Let me tell you a little something about your “martial art world”

It’s a place full of eggshell thin egos, Meglo-maniacal con men, Super inflated Titles, Grandiose pretenses, Arrogant, Naive, Foolish, Superstitious, Archaic,

It’s full of bull**** and people who can’t deal with reality so they polish their tender insecurities with kicking and punching air filled villans and would be bullies..

The Truth is known Old jing.. you’re just in denial. at least you have company.

the best way to promote San Shou is to downplay it’s association with CMA.

Not true. But aligning it with TCMA has done nothing but hurt the sport..

before I create more controversy, let me clarify that I only studied with Kwan Sifu for 6 months - but I continued to train at his kwoon on weekends with my sifu and see the guy from time to time. In fact, he has a respectful attitude towards ring/sport fighting styles and their practicioners, something that should be reciprocated.

I urinate on your respect..:rolleyes:

Old Jing?..

Bah! nevermind!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
I urinate on your respect..:rolleyes:

let the record stand as such, then. Hasta Nunca, d!ckwad

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
I urinate on your respect..:rolleyes:

Exactly what to expect from a low foreheaded primate.

http://www.realfighting.com/0702/danaherframe.html

Sorry SunTzu, this plane was hijaked by the boxcutter wielding incorrect and we’re going to have to take them down to prevent further damage.

“Let’s Roll.”

Did you know that Cleopatra studied traditional Kung Fu? No, really, it is true… That’s why they called her “Queen of Denile” :smiley:

Look at this forum every day just for a glimpse of the crap so called traditional people spout off…

So much “talking” about fighting and virtually NO fighting at all

Aikido people are usually content to “harmonize” with the world the way that their founder wanted them to. Judoka are usually (with exceptions) happy to play in their own world and do their sport. Of all the Chinese martial arts, at least a lot of Tai Chi places accept they are just doing it for health and don’t take the “deadly chi blast” seriously…

Here, virtually every day, people with virutally NO fighting experience lecture on the topic and give advice!

HOw San Shou/San Da has earned what respect it has?

http://message.axkickboxing.com/images/user_uploaded/lkfmdc/richard=thai.jpg

Nuff said

Originally posted by fa_jing
I thought he was calling me Osama because my last name is Laden…

LOL, I meant to tell you my story about that… When you sent me that jow last year, there was some powder on the box, and I saw the last name laden… I didn’t open it for two days, as I forgot that was your last name!

Did you know that Cleopatra studied traditional Kung Fu? No, really, it is true… That’s why they called her “Queen of Denile”

That’s Little Richard calling. He says your joke stole his gay, and he wants it back.