If you wanted to learn both, but could only learn one at a time, which one would you learn first? Thanks in advance.
Shuai chiao, because it’s harder to find than judo. The opportunity to study judo will certainly come up again. SC, not so much.
I was going to say judo, because it’s easier to find and emcompasses a larger syllabus of the grappling world (groundfighting, chokes, submissions)
but Chang style makes an excellent point…
Ask the questions that really matter
SC or judo?
- which teacher produces a higher percentage of competent students?
- since we’ll be doing something potentially dangerous, which school has fewer sociopaths?
- which school works harder?
- which school gets the “least likely to let me out w/o a beating” award when you try to swipe something off their wall?
Everything else is just stylistic differences.
CSN did make a good point. Why not check out both schools though, and see which you prefer?
Don’t be a sissy Judo-boy like Sevenstar. Real men do Shuai Chiao.
Real men do Shuai Chiao.
holds thumb and index finger about 2" apart
Keep telling yourself that 
- holds four fingers together and bi[size=2]tch[/size] slaps ST upside the head.
No, I will tell you about my awesome Shuai Chiao prowess sissy San Shou boy.
To me the question is like “would you rather surf porn on the net or watch a solar eclipse?” They’re both cool, but one of 'em only comes along once in a lifetime.
Originally posted by Water Dragon
Don’t be a sissy Judo-boy like Sevenstar. Real men do Shuai Chiao.
You know groin ripper did judo, right?
Originally posted by SevenStar
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You know groin ripper did judo, right? [/B]
Yeah, and what does he practice now? That’s what I thought judo boy.
p.s. You kick like a girl
I’d go with SC, cause I’ve heard that a lot of Judo has become more sport oriented. Kinda like TKD, but not nearly as bad (since TKD is simply martial art based sport now). But if you can’t find a SC school then go for Judo I guess. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Judo, I want to learn it, but I am unsure now that I’ve read a thing or two about how it’s become more sport oriented.
Ah it’s always been sport oriented and so is SC. But that doesnt keep away the traditional schools of either styles to teach the “deadly” moves alongside. -_-. However, SC tends to go along more toward traditional side.
Originally posted by Kymus
I’d go with SC, cause I’ve heard that a lot of Judo has become more sport oriented. Kinda like TKD, but not nearly as bad (since TKD is simply martial art based sport now). But if you can’t find a SC school then go for Judo I guess. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Judo, I want to learn it, but I am unsure now that I’ve read a thing or two about how it’s become more sport oriented.
:rolleyes:
I think he heard it too late, the whole birth of Judo was so Kano could make jujutsu sports oriented and easy.
Originally posted by Kymus
I’d go with SC, cause I’ve heard that a lot of Judo has become more sport oriented. Kinda like TKD, but not nearly as bad (since TKD is simply martial art based sport now). But if you can’t find a SC school then go for Judo I guess. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Judo, I want to learn it, but I am unsure now that I’ve read a thing or two about how it’s become more sport oriented.
Judo too sport oriented? Does SC even include any ground work at all? Why not just study Sumo wrestling.
TW, unlike the UFC or free fighting matches, ‘most’ Judo VS Judo tournaments, rely on tactics of throwing and counter throwing, hardly any grappling involved. but when it’s involved my bet is it’s done as a seperate match.
StickyHands,
Simply admit that you don’t know what you are talking about. Seperate submission match? Where did you get that crap?
I’m no Judo expert, or competitor for that matter but I’ll try to explain. You can win by points (for different levels of takedowns/throws and I believe hold downs of a period of time), throwing your opponent on their back, or by submission.
Groundwork is allowed for…something like 30 seconds…leglocks and a few other submissions aren’t legal (chokes and armbars are legal). Since there is a timelimit on groundwork many fighters on the bottom just go to all fours and stall till the ref stands them up.
Just a little info for ya. If anyone wants to add go for it
You are right that most matches are based around throws but there is the chance for a more submission orientated person to work.
…or submissions off of standing techniques or to counter them: