I would like to hear what others opinions are on this subject, as I have been debating and researching as to what other fighting style would be a good advantage to have in this modern day! I read Bjj is great to add, and I have been researching to see what options are there that matches and flows with WC. I would love to hear others opinions on this subject. 
Did someone already suggested the following 3 styles?
- Emei,
- snake,
- crane.
If you want to extend your sticky hand into clinching, what style do you think that can help you to cross that boundary? The true integration will be striking -> clinch -> throw -> ground game. Since BJJ is only good in ground game, you will need to fill in the holes for your “clinch” and “throw” first before you should worry about “ground game”.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1270085]Did someone already suggested the following 3 styles?
- Emei,
- snake,
- crane.
If you want to extend your sticky hand into clinching, what style do you think that can help you to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
What if I am not interested in those three options? The style doesn’t necessarily have to deal with clinching necessarily. It would help if it strengthens ground fighting, but I am actually open to suggestions. I am not a brawny person, so it would have to be something that I feel would add to my WC and can be used to confuse an opponent and make it hard to read/ defend against. I appreciate your opinion, thank you
[QUOTE=jhexx;1270086]What if I am not interested in those three options? The style doesn’t necessarily have to deal with clinching necessarily. It would help if it strengthens ground fighting, but I am actually open to suggestions. I am not a brawny person, so it would have to be something that I feel would add to my WC and can be used to confuse an opponent and make it hard to read/ defend against. I appreciate your opinion, thank you :)[/QUOTE]
Anything that you find useful, I would recommend Baji , actually , you can quit Wing Chun and devote your self to Baji completely .
[QUOTE=jhexx;1270086]it would have to be something that I feel would add to my WC and can be used to confuse an opponent and make it hard to read/ defend against.[/QUOTE]
- Drunken Boxing
- Monkey Boxing
- Drunken Monkey Boxing
[QUOTE=jhexx;1270083]I would like to hear what others opinions are on this subject, as I have been debating and researching as to what other fighting style would be a good advantage to have in this modern day! I read Bjj is great to add, and I have been researching to see what options are there that matches and flows with WC. I would love to hear others opinions on this subject. :)[/QUOTE]
Nothing!
As soon as you start adding things to VT it is no longer VT. If you think VT is lacking in certain areas then why not just go to an MMA club where they cover all bases?
The main reason people add things to the system is because their VT is flawed and they can’t make it work. If you add BJJ then why not add more? When will it end? Maybe add some firearm work into the system.
The secret 6th form of Ving Tsun…an oozi 9mm :D:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Graham H;1270093]Nothing!
As soon as you start adding things to VT it is no longer VT. If you think VT is lacking in certain areas then why not just go to an MMA club where they cover all bases?
The main reason people add things to the system is because their VT is flawed and they can’t make it work. If you add BJJ then why not add more? When will it end? Maybe add some firearm work into the system.
The secret 6th form of Ving Tsun…an oozi 9mm :D:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Back again Graham!!
FWIW, i basically agree with you
[QUOTE=Graham H;1270093]Nothing!
As soon as you start adding things to VT it is no longer VT. If you think VT is lacking in certain areas then why not just go to an MMA club where they cover all bases?
The main reason people add things to the system is because their VT is flawed and they can’t make it work.[/QUOTE]
I generally agree with Graham on this one. Just “one” art alone is a lifetime…trying to dabble in several is not optimal IMO.
PS: why not master the art of being a sniper!?!?!? You’d be very far away from your adversary and wouldn’t have to worry about clinching, throws, etc! hahaha
[QUOTE=jhexx;1270083]I would like to hear what others opinions are on this subject, as I have been debating and researching as to what other fighting style would be a good advantage to have in this modern day! I read Bjj is great to add, and I have been researching to see what options are there that matches and flows with WC. I would love to hear others opinions on this subject. :)[/QUOTE]
Personally I have found judo and jiujitsu very complimentary. However, my preference for those arts is because they were some of the first that I took part in. I also enjoy the more cardiovascular work out that they allow.
[QUOTE=jhexx;1270083]I would like to hear what others opinions are on this subject, as I have been debating and researching as to what other fighting style would be a good advantage to have in this modern day! I read Bjj is great to add, and I have been researching to see what options are there that matches and flows with WC. I would love to hear others opinions on this subject. :)[/QUOTE]
No art is perfect, even Wing Chun! Every art has gaps. One of Wing Chun’s gaps is ground-fighting. So I think…yes…BJJ is a good complement to Wing Chun if you are interested in being able to defend yourself or fight on the ground. Another gap in Wing Chun is practical weapons work. No one carries around a pair of short swords or an 8 foot pole! So training something like Escrima to see how they use a stick and then exploring how you can adapt your Wing Chun to the use of the stick based on that experience is valuable. Training with a tactical folder is valuable because the best way to understand how to defend against someone with a knife is to understand how to effectively use a knife. I’ve seen too many Wing Chun people demo’ing self defense moves against a knife attack that would just get someone killed because they really have no idea what to expect from the knife wielder. Personally, I like and train what Jim Keating and Mike Janich have taught over the years.
And it is good to cross-train in just about anything. You don’t have to do it with the purpose of “blending” it with your Wing Chun. Training in a completely different art will give you new insight into how your Wing Chun works. Over the years I’ve cross-trained in Escrima, Panantukan/Maphilindo Silat, Ninjutsu, German Longsword, German Sword & Buckler, Old School Western Boxing, Bowie Knife, Tomahawk, and tactical folder. I think each one gave me some amount of new understanding or insight into my Wing Chun.
[QUOTE=GlennR;1270094]Back again Graham!!
FWIW, i basically agree with you[/QUOTE]
I look in from time to time Glenda but there is rarely anything worth commenting on these days. Same old same old but without me in the mix which makes me slightly aroused
[QUOTE=KPM;1270104]No art is perfect, even Wing Chun! .[/QUOTE]
Correct so it’s better to invest all the time you have in becoming proficient in your chosen discipline rather than spend less time trying to perfect many.
Each to their own I guess. There are too many variables to try and cover everything in the short time we have.
[QUOTE=Graham H;1270115]I look in from time to time Glenda but there is rarely anything worth commenting on these days. Same old same old but without me in the mix which makes me slightly aroused :)[/QUOTE]
Gee G, join in… i miss your spirited banter!
Apparently me too dum for Paddigtons speak stuff?
[QUOTE=GlennR;1270118]Gee G, join in… i miss your spirited banter!
Apparently me too dum for Paddigtons speak stuff?[/QUOTE]
The banter is good but many of these threads descend into complete chaos, one-upmanship and in some cases down right nastiness!
Better to concentrate on brighter things ;)
[QUOTE=Graham H;1270121]The banter is good but many of these threads descend into complete chaos, one-upmanship and in some cases down right nastiness!
Better to concentrate on brighter things ;):)[/QUOTE]
True, hows your training going G?
[QUOTE=GlennR;1270122]True, hows your training going G?[/QUOTE]
All good in da hood bro! I kind of do my own thing now. I just work out with like minded people. Don’t really teach too much. I prefer practicing.
The freedom to express myself in my own way is quite liberating. Of course I have PB to thank for pointing me in the right direction and also Michael Kurth who is very good but the whole organization thing is not for me. In fact the only thing I like about Ving Tsun is Ving Tsun. The marketing, politics, people that charge stupid amounts of money for tuition and general worldwide BS that surrounds it doesn’t interest me anymore.
It really is crazy what goes on in Ving Tsun circles these days.
What about you mate?
[QUOTE=Graham H;1270134]All good in da hood bro! I kind of do my own thing now. I just work out with like minded people. Don’t really teach too much. I prefer practicing.
The freedom to express myself in my own way is quite liberating. Of course I have PB to thank for pointing me in the right direction and also Michael Kurth who is very good but the whole organization thing is not for me. In fact the only thing I like about Ving Tsun is Ving Tsun. The marketing, politics, people that charge stupid amounts of money for tuition and general worldwide BS that surrounds it doesn’t interest me anymore.
It really is crazy what goes on in Ving Tsun circles these days.
What about you mate?[/QUOTE]
Great to hear G, I’m truly over the wing Chun organisation thing as well, it’s boring and to be honest just doesn’t help with the training IMO
I’ve really concentrated on boxing this year and I’ve been asked to go in a masters boxing fight in a couple of months… Love it
I’ll post the fight once it’s done
Good to hear things are going well!
Gotta ask, spoken to kev?
[QUOTE=KPM;1270104]training something like Escrima to see how they use a stick and then exploring how you can adapt your Wing Chun to the use of the stick based on that experience is valuable.[/QUOTE]
Kali/Escrima/Arnis ads a lot to and works well with any Chinese Martial Art.
[QUOTE=GlennR;1270136]
Gotta ask, spoken to kev?[/QUOTE]
Oh you had to go there didn’t you!
Im actually glad Grahams posted a few times, I miss his posts and glad his training is going well, if you post the clip of yourself in a master boxing match Ill post a clip of myself in my next masters judo comp lol
[QUOTE=GlennR;1270136]Great to hear G, I’m truly over the wing Chun organisation thing as well, it’s boring and to be honest just doesn’t help with the training IMO
I’ve really concentrated on boxing this year and I’ve been asked to go in a masters boxing fight in a couple of months… Love it
I’ll post the fight once it’s done
Good to hear things are going well!
Gotta ask, spoken to kev?[/QUOTE]
Boxing training is and always will be a big part of my routine. I have been toying with the idea of doing the White Collar thing but I blow hot and cold with it. I’ve even gone back to hitting the bags as a boxer occasionally rather than just Ving Tsun. What harm can a few hooks and uppercuts do eh? I still manage to maintain my VT shape in sparring without the need chuck a bob or weave in
I did like my days in the ring…
Ving Tsun practice really is enough for me at the mo. There is more than enough work to do in the system.
As for Kev he is the same. Practicing the WSLPBVT method as usual and he chooses not to get wrapped up in internet wars now. Fair play to him I say.