agreed, FD. That’s the real fighter’s way of doing it.
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karate kid crane stance
TTT for morning.
Entry? teep-jab-cross-hook-step in for O Soto. The hook clears the way for the throw.
lemme rephrase the entry thing…more of how do you break the balance for the throw. Judo uses a kuzushi (offbalance) in various directions, depending on the throw. Or, the opponent may offbalance themselves unknowingly, etc. Explain how SC goes from say steal stepping in and how the throw is done. Is the balance breaking don by the step in, by the strike, some sort of pull, etc.
ttt for ST00.
Depends on what you are going for.
Example - Leg seizing, the push to the opponents tricep/shoulder is what more or less facilitates the leg seize.
If you want to chop, and your opponent continually gives you forward energy, just push his head down, the natural reaction will be to raise it back up, at which point you step and chop.
We also were working a leg seize with the hand, the shoulder is used to charge the ribcage, and offbalance your opponent.
Originally posted by Meat Shake
If you want to chop, and your opponent continually gives you forward energy, just push his head down, the natural reaction will be to raise it back up, at which point you step and chop.
maybe…that will depend on the person and the position they are in. My personal philosophy is not to go against the force, in most cases. IME, when someone is giving you a hard push in a certain direction, either 1) they are newbies or 2) they are trying to bait you. They WANT you to push back because it lends to setting yourself up for what they want to throw you with.
In the example you gave with chopping, I’d either:
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let you continue to push down on my head. I’d sink a little and circle my head, getting it to the outside of your arm. from there, I’d attack.
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drop for a single leg, double, etc. may/may not get it, but regardless, your hand is gone and you’ve moved, possibly into a position I can take advantage of.
1) let you continue to push down on my head. I’d sink a little and circle my head, getting it to the outside of your arm. from there, I’d attack.
Right, and I’d probably switch to an outside head mop variation (puter kapala)
2) drop for a single leg, double, etc. may/may not get it, but regardless, your hand is gone and you’ve moved, possibly into a position I can take advantage of.
If I’m pushing your head down, I’m already looking for this and am prepared to sprawl.
Originally posted by Water Dragon
Right, and I’d probably switch to an outside head mop variation (puter kapala)
nah. I step in as I sink. Ideally, my head is past your elbow. Also, most people that try this on me are pulling down pretty hard. Consequently, I hit their arm upward, under their tricep as I step/sink. I only do that if there’s a hard pull, or for whatever reason i can’t get my head free.
If I’m pushing your head down, I’m already looking for this and am prepared to sprawl.
which is actually fine, as I’m already expecting the possibility of not getting the double. And, as in MS’s case, he’s not expecting the shot - he’s expecting me to try and lift my head.
" I’d sink a little and circle my head, getting it to the outside of your arm. "
This is actually the way we work it, you let them roll their head out, and you simply put your forearm to their throat while either chopping or shaving. We also work against the shoot from said position.
Originally posted by SevenStar
nah. I step in as I sink. Ideally, my head is past your elbow. Also, most people that try this on me are pulling down pretty hard. Consequently, I hit their arm upward, under their tricep as I step/sink. I only do that if there’s a hard pull, or for whatever reason i can’t get my head free.
we’re straying off topic though… SC guys - why do you steal step?
Depends. Sometimes Ill steal step when I want chopping or shaving, sometimes Ill steal step after the leg seize.
Sometimes I steal step whenI block your punch, so I can get on your inside.
Why do you steal step?
because I’m a clepto…
Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
because I’m a clepto…
Originally posted by Meat Shake
Depends. Sometimes Ill steal step when I want chopping or shaving, sometimes Ill steal step after the leg seize.
Sometimes I steal step whenI block your punch, so I can get on your inside.
Why do you steal step?
Hey, enough of that - I ask the questions here! “Sometimes I steal step whenI block your punch, so I can get on your inside.” However, since I’m mainly a judoka, I don’t steal step much. In judo, the crossing of the legs is bad.
I don’t believe steal stepping has been explained yet. So, for terminologies sake, what is steal stepping?
If you’re crossing your legs, you’re not doing a stealing step. Stealing step is very similar to wrestling’s back step.
I don’t know from wrestling’s back step, but what I call stealing step is going from a pretty square footing to moving one foot backward and in line with the other, so I end up facing 90 degrees from my original position and with my center moved maybe a foot or foot and a half to one side and the rear of where it started. I might actually move it ****her to the side so my legs do cross briefly and I end up at even 130 or so degrees. The idea is to move backward and turn all at once without giving up the stability of your forward foot.
Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
The idea is to move backward and turn all at once without giving up the stability of your forward foot.
Correct. And this is the reason why your feet shouldn’t cross on a stealing step. The step is actually initiated by moving your hip, the foot kinda follows. So since your hip is leading (which turns the torso) you’re feet never cross. Think of what is happening in relationship to your opponent.