A style is as much about the practitioner as it is the actual person. Personal interpretation is the really the soul of the art. I read alot of threads about Shuai-chiao (SC) and it seems that my vision is very different from others. Mind you that my interest in SC stems from years of working as a Bouncer and poice officer.
SC is a brutal and savage system that slams your opponent into unforgiving objects (walls, floors, trees ect,) often breaking arms and legs on the way down. It is the perfect stand up style and has an extensive anti-ground fighting component. It is not a style that should be used if you are worried about not hurting your opponent or worried about getting sued.
To engage a SC man is like trying to hold on to a flesh ripping, joint breaking tornado. If you watch a SC competition it would be easy to mistake it for a type of judo, but this would be a serious misnomer. Though I won my weight class at the SC nationals, I really didn’t feel that I demonstated the true art. Not the art that I see. Real SC can only be expressed in reality fighting. San Shou has some elements to this but even that is vastly watered down. The style that I call Shuai-chiao is very powerful. That is why I train it.
I have made it a habit to highly respect most Shuai Chiao practitioners I come across.
Shuai Shiao rules!!
Im entering a ss comp. in november.. :eek: that will be scary :rolleyes: .. 
~K~
“maybe not in combat… but think of the chicks man, the chicks!”
Agreed
I have to agree with Darknight. I have been studying Shuai Chiao for bout 8 years now and have found it one of the most brutal arts around. I have tried BJJ and some standup punch kick arts and have found no comparison to Shuai Chiao. It it has every element of a complete Martial art… punch kick lock and most of all throws.
Good post Darknight!!!
The truth at last:)
What i have understood is that shuai-chiao is basicly judo without groundwork.
I always hoped this was not true.
Is there anywhere on the net where i may find some pictures or drawings of shuai-chiao techniques?
I don’t know of any such site, but I would be happy to try and answer any questions you have.
You may take my life, but you will never take my Freedom
Hey, GGL, is it possible I know you? This is Austin, from Paul Hwang’s Tai Chi People school.
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Shuai Chiao is much more than just Judo without ground work. A buddy of mine who is a long time Kenpo roughneck refers to us as ‘Klingon Combat School.’
It is effective, simple, direct and not goinmg to get you in touch with your inner child - although your inner child might get knocked out of you when you hit the ground.
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actually shaui chiao is quite internal, the postures have internal training to them. Also many shuai chiao practitioners crosstrain in tai chi, which coincidentally has shuai chiao.
I don’t personally beleive that judo/jj has all the same stuff that shuai chiao has. Very very similar, but jj is made for the gi, SC for the jacket.
Then again I’m not a master of either, so I can’t say whats there and whats not. Shuai chio “fast” version. Is very very advanced and seems to use more rooting than jj/judo, in it’s circular movements. BTW Trad, jj, like kano jj looks very very much like shuai chiao minus the cool set ups and footwork.
a grabbing stlye like mantis or eagle claw combined with shuai chiao and hsing I would be awesome. Too bad those old masters werent into cross training. Looks like I’ll have to keep practicing and try to make a personal fighting system.
A little help with that…Which eagle claw master would teach me the most, hsing I? Shuai chiao?
Hey Ch’ang
I’ve met Paul a couple of times and have seen his tai chi.. very good.. I even seen his Chang style tai chi… I’m up in RR with Cent Tex Martial Arts (Dave Pickens school).. it is very possible that we have met.. been to tournaments.. or any gatherings..?
No tournaments, I’d have gone to the one last week but for the flu…
only gathering was Shifu Hwang’s Christmas/housewarming party last year.
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Ch’ang
Kool.. Is Jeff Hughes still over there.. I haven’t talk to him in a while.. I think he is helping us a the Harry Man Festival in Brushy Creek next week… I always open to discuss Shuai Chiao.. we could meet sometime
Jeff’s the Mantis guy, right? If so, no. He’s got his own place in south Austin now.
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Hey
I just checked out his website and saw he was down south.. kool.. are yall going to have someone else come in or is Paul going to run solo for a while?
He’s been solo for as long as I’ve been there - bout a year and a half now. I only know Jeff Hughes by reputation (Shifu Hwang and a foxy gal in my oil painting class.)
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Honeysmack, it must be remembered that SC is not dependent and the gi/jacket/clothing, but rather uses the body’s natural handles to implement the throw. By natural handles I mean head, neck, arms, legs, lower lip, ect. SC also differs from judo/ju jitsu in the violence of the entry and destructivness of the levers that direct opposing force. The throw, which is the ultimate technique in SC, often seems incidental to the attack. The reason for this is because the set-ups are so aggressive and usually destructive in of themselves. You also won’t see throws done with such force that the thrower is ripped off his feet with the victim, like you see in modern judo.,
Dark Knight:
Have you done any MMA competitions? If so, which ones and how did you do?
Cool stuff.
I looked at the videos in the throw alley, cool stuff.
It seemes to me that many times after finishing a takedown technique the denfender moves into a low horsestance close to his downed attacker, any special reason for this?