I think maybe it’s time for an “Ultimate Footwork” thread.
Point on my above post. Think of spinning on the ball of that front foot instead of literally stepping.
ttt so we can add cracking to the terminology.
TT frickin T
ttt - can we get some explanation of “cracking” in here? And I don’t want to hear anything about the dashboard on your 15 year old Celica.
Cracking - similar to part the horses mane if Im not mistaken.
The opponents arm goes across your chest, your arm goes up across his chest, and you basically torque him around you using his elbow as leverage against your chest, and reap the legs.
If it helps, think of cracking as throwing with an armbar. You resist the throw you literally break your own arm thanks to the torque and leverage. Nasty little bugger.
Sometimes it’s a reap, but I’ve always seen it played as a “break” where you block someone’s legs as you you torque the upper body around and off-balance.
Yeah…
You learn to move REAL quick when practicing those… its a nasty throw…
crip, is the forward march to forward march the only 2 sided rock pole excersise?
And what training equipment do I still need…(this is for anyone)
Ive got…
1 sided rock pole
2 sided rock pole
Weights on a pulley
Giant Ozarka bottle
Throwing bag, bout to make a long bag
Headache bag
2 heavy bags
Bout to buy a speed bag this friday
weights
weapons
wrist roller
Focus mitts… Actually I have a ****load of equipment… 
Always looking for new stuff tho…
Thanks, y’all.
Whazza headache bag?
Headache bag = basketball sized leather with rubber bladder (like speed bag, but round) with a hook on top and on bottom, you suspend it from the ceiling and the floor with elastic. Makes it swing around, more realistic than hitting a static giant heavy bag.
Oh, that thingy - I never knew the name for it.
Hmmm…“Ultimate training gear thread”?
Meat, do you mean a double-ended bag? Those are fun. Good for training angles.
I’m working with a cheap maize bag and a jab bag at the moment.
double ended bag = headache bag?
Or were you talking about the double sided rock pole?
Wondering on people’s ideas about this:
Comparing the belly-down groundfighting posture characteristic of wrestling to the back-down posture of BJJ, does a mixture of both provide complimentary skills, or would a BJJ or submission-style fighter find the belly-down posture to be almost always a bad idea (other than for sprawling/scrambling on the takedown)?
Thanks.
Belly-down is useful as a transition in certain circumstances. Having someone on your back is never good, but I think you can overdo the “never give up your back” mantra, too. The primary value is getting up from underneath an opponent, something US folkstyle wrestlers probably do better than anyone, as it’s a major focus of the style.
I think they provide complimentaru skills. Out of habit, I try to never give up my gack, but in the event that someone does get it, wrestling has shown me some decent techniques for getting someone off my back. Also, I train in Judo - many judoka don’t care for groundwork and will try to get to their stomach and turtle up until the ref stands them back up. between bjj and wrestling, I’ve got several techniques to get them off of their stomach so that the action may continue on the ground.
ttt - how about talking a little bit about side control for beginners? It seems like the likeliest result of the takedowns/throws I know. So, what do you do to defend yourself if you’re in side control with an arm trapped? It always seemed like a really, really bad spot to be in to me.
Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
[B]thanks for the Candid responce WD, i hope i can get other SC to input their opinion as well.
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great! look forward to seeing that.
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If you don’t have mats, What are your practices like? (an example of a typical session.)
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we agree. you realize this gap, but cross train to plug the holes… How do your peers view this?
I am of the opinion that cross training is very important but also that the styles you choose are almost as important.
ex. many mma students study muay thai and bjj. - but they have immense trouble in the middle ground (standing clinch). maybe they add additional wrestling to their training but they still end up training in divisions. (grappling but no strikes, striking with no fear of throws)
IMHO a striking art is needed that blends smoothly into the standing clinch and the grappling art must immediately pick up here and then follow thru into groundwork. (in each, different aspects can be developed to a greater degree. ex- using wrestling skills in standing shoots and in grappling, using bjj, sambo to improve the matwork)
i just see “patch work” cross training as possibly developing bad habits. [/B]
Well illbf…rflmo…When I was training aikido we were huge on matt work( and I was in there like every day..lol), but 5 yrs later the penny drops…Come to think of it, we did train other branches at that school. AS far as cross-training and ffilling gaps, dimmak and ninjitsu are a nice addition. Here’s that lack of terminology thing again. I can’t think of how many times I’ve been involved in a “technical” discussion and been totally lost then seen the set or a demo or understood the lyrics and gone..oh ok …ah ha…That’s one of my favourites. I just figure that not being able to call it by name, doesn’t always mean you can’t do it.
Originally posted by SevenStar
pulling is similar in principle to tai otoshi, but tai otoshi uses the foot to block, as opposed to the hand.
Pulling, as I’ve learned it, doesn’t use the hand to block out the opponents leg. Both arms and the inside shoulder (the shoulder that is against the opponents body right before the throw is completed) are used for upper body control and leg blocking is used to complete the throw.
For the most part, upper body control is what makes a throw, and (also for the most part) only using one arm/hand to accomplish this is awkward and weak.
Originally posted by SevenStar
we’re straying off topic though… SC guys - why do you steal step?
In no particular order…
- As an entering technique
- To generate torque for a throw
- To escape a throw
- To escape being encircled
- To tie up an opponents legs (cross step actually).