I can see an application of hiza guruma in SC’s ghost stance.
Wassa ghost stance?
Originally posted by SevenStar
maybe… it may not be a clean throw. If you both go down and a struggle ensues, you need to know how to get back to your feet. If you end up having to heel hook him in the process, so be it.
Fair enough. On topic, shearing is great, but if your timing/coordination is off, it really looks ugly. Like you’re pushing the guy backward then tripping him, or picking the leg then trying to push him down. I’d relate this to judo somehow, but I don’t know **** about judo. (And only slightly more than that about SC.)
as he reaps the leg, he’s pushing him.
my descriptiveness is kinda sucky… I’ll let someone else explain ghost stance…if nobody dows, then I will.
Sevenstar,
I sent you a PM, did you get it?
wm
I just read it. Good info - ya learn something new every day!
Originally posted by SevenStar
ko uchi gari
So, is he pushing the whole time, or just with the reap? In the animation, it kind of looks like he’s pulling first, then pushing later.
tak,
every judo throw can be broken down into 3 phases that always occur in this order.
Kuzushi (off balancing)
Tsukuri (entry)
Kake (execution)
Kuzushi is by far the most important. This is what makes smaller people throw big people.
the initial pull is to break his balance. he has to either pull his opponent and MAKE him step forward, or try to coax him into stepping forward and pulling him as he steps. Once his weight is committed forward, you steal his base by sweeping his leg, and using the push to take him down.
okay - time to swtich the topic since this one is dying… What entry methods do you use?
I have it from a good source Cha’ng Tung Sheng would enter front door with Hsing I forcing his opponent to either side then using an angular Shuai Chiao attack.
I like to enter with an Iron Broom to close the gap. I work best out of sweep range, so I begin my combos from there and work closer.
The game changes considerably when you throw punches into the mix, as you can hide your footwork a little easier, IMO.
Edit: If you want a description of Ghost Stance, 7, I’ll give you one when I get home tonight. I’m just starting my lunch break now.
There’s another term we can put into the lexicon…
describe iron broom.
Judo doesn’t steal step like SC does. Judo uses the kazushi, or off balance. With SC, how do you break the balance? Do you just steal step and eat up his space? Same question for SC sweeps.
Entries…
Almost always use either switching hands or butterfly palms.
you kept feeling like you couldn’t contribute to this thread… but now you can!
explain switching hands and butterfly palms.
Switching hands… Throw attack. clear the block, attack again.
Butterfly palms… Arms out, bent a little from the elbows, you just kinda circle your hands around.. Like a set of feelers, so you can grab as soon as you make contact.
Originally posted by SevenStar
okay - time to swtich the topic since this one is dying… What entry methods do you use?
Entries are for pussies. Shoot a double from eight feet away with no setup.
Sorry, my schedule just doesn’t seem to let me get online much these days.
Okay, Iron Broom a.k.a. Forward Marching, is a sweep. The mechanics share quite a few similarities to a thai roundhouse. You step, and pull the sweep through with your hip, aiming to hook and yank up the opponents leg. If that fails, I keep the leg loose and slam it back down into either Dragon-Plays-in-Water (Inner thigh hooking throw, I believe) or a single leg reap while all your weight is still on that leg.
I like it as an entry because my shins are already fairly well conditioned, so if I connect and can’t pull off the sweep, two things will happen: I unbalance you and secondly, I’ll do some damage to your leg. At the very least it’s going to hurt from a leg kick, at most you’re going flying.
Anyhow, that’s my take on it. WD knows much more than I do on this matter, so I differ to him.