Not sure, but my guess would either be body positioning (hips in relation to theirs) or 1 as opposed to 2 legs in the reap.
I’ve had very little problem integrating the “patchwork.” Then again, I didn’t do much boxing or thai boxing so that may be the issue 
“O” is outside (or going toward the outside). ouchi gari, osoto gari
“ko” is inside kouchi gari, kosoto gari.
*note “koshi” * - in typical asian to english transcription the spellings have been varied. koshi = goshi = hip nothing to do with “inside”. barai = harai. same.
re: “patchwork”, MP, if we always agreed, we wouldn’t have much to talk about!
Originally posted by lkfmdc
[B]Regarding Muay Thai and throws, or the LACK of them… I suggest you read this thread on AX Kickboxing
http://message.axkickboxing.com/index?action=dispthread&topic=9628&junk=1069791335.084 [/B]
my understanding of the throws and takedowns is that they are legal, but not scored per se. They have the same function as an advantage in tennis. Not all throws are legal, but you can do some throws from the clinch, and if you kick your opponent’s base leg (after blocking his kick, while he’s kicking, etc) and he falls, it is considered a takedown.
I’ll get more clarification on this at the next class.
Is the terminology discussion done? are we ready to move on, or are we still going to define/compare some stuff? I know there are plenty of techniques that haven’t been listed yet.
Sorry… I have a very limited knowledge of shuai chiao, and even more so limited of judo/ju jutsu right now.
that doesn’t matter. There are plenty of people here with knowledge of these two arts.
I guess I’ll bring up another term - shearing. I can see this principal applied in judo’s o soto gari if you grab the same lapel and use your forearm to help drive them over your leg. anyone agree with that?
judo throws people
volcano throws mayonnaise
watching men do MA makes you want to throw mayonnaise? No wonder you can’t get a woman…
Shuai chiao’s embracing = judo’s ura nage
Originally posted by MonkeySlap Too
[B]At the last ACSCA tournament in Austin Texas, groundfighting was introduced into the freefighting. However, you had ten seconds to submit your opponent or a third person would enter the ring and beat the sh!t out of both opponents. This was seen as a logical way to introduce reality, and insure competitors do not rely on a strategy that can result in receiving a sidewalk sunday.
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:rolleyes:
Is shearing a judo term? What does it mean?
Ive only heard of TheAnimal’s term “shearing.” Kinda like deflecting shots off your rotating upper body…
:eek:
Chingei, turn on your sarcasmometer
would this help at all?
It’s a list of judo throws (in japanese and english) with pictures. I thought it might help with terminology.
Edit: kris actually found it and posted it on ORA. So thank him if its any help.
We use judo info all the time. The links I posted here and in the original UG thread come from that site.
Originally posted by yenhoi
[B]Is shearing a judo term? What does it mean?
Ive only heard of TheAnimal’s term “shearing.” Kinda like deflecting shots off your rotating upper body…
:eek: [/B]
Shearing is an SC term. I’m getting ready to get an hour of sleep before Ihave to get up for work though, so I’ll explain it later, if nobody beats me to it.
Originally posted by lkfmdc
[B]Only problem with Master Chang’s suggestion is
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you need to carry that weapon around all the time
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doing so and using it will get you SERIOUS prison time [/B]
Valid points. Regarding #1, lots of people carry knives, guns, whatever - at least in the US. With respect to #2, the only time I’d throw somebody “on the street” (at Disneyland, in a Taco Bell, whatever…) would be in a situation where my personal safety was threatened to begin with. Gotta go, more later.
Also, if it’s a personal defense situation, once you throw the other person, you can just leave, rather than applying a leg lock or something.
On the other hand, if you’re going to be in a sport situation where groundfighting is allowed, it’s silly not to be prepared.
Originally posted by Tak
Also, if it’s a personal defense situation, once you throw the other person, you can just leave, rather than applying a leg lock or something.
maybe… it may not be a clean throw. If you both go down and a struggle ensues, you need to know how to get back to your feet. If you end up having to heel hook him in the process, so be it.
Back to the topic of the thread and to answer yenhoi’s question, shearing is using two opposite forces against the body to make your opponent fall. for example, if I put my right forearm into your midsection (pushing), while pulling your leg from under you. That is shearing.
In the example I gave earlier ( the driving o soto gari) the forearm is used to push while the leg can reap.