I heard of this terms and read from the book about Sifu Duncan Leung?
Which 8 kicks are they and which forms are they from?
[QUOTE=blackjesus;1141803]I heard of this terms and read from the book about Sifu Duncan Leung?
Which 8 kicks are they and which forms are they from?[/QUOTE]
There are lots of things in WC that aren’t in the forms.
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1141830]There are lots of things in WC that aren’t in the forms.[/QUOTE]
So true 
But as far as I know, all the legwork for Wing Chun is in either the empty hand, wooden man or weaponry forms. I just don’t believe in ‘waiting’ until you learn these forms to be exposed to the legwork! We have separate drills for such things…
Check out Joys post on the Ng Chan thread
http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1141265&postcount=835
It’s not wing chun, but it’s a great overall look at kung fu kicking methods.
Kick is just kick. I don’t believe there is a such thing as WC kicks and none WC kick.
The author Lee Ying Arng was a Taiji guy. He didn’t label his 24 kicks as Taiji 24 kicks but genaral TCMA kicks.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1141904]Kick is just kick. I don’t believe there is a such thing as WC kicks and none WC kick.
The author Lee Ying Arng was a Taiji guy. He didn’t label his 24 kicks as Taiji 24 kicks but genaral TCMA kicks.
http://www.plumpub.com/sales/kungfu/collbk_kicking.htm[/QUOTE]
That kind of thinking is frowned upon. Good job…
VT kicking follows a ‘line’ of thought 
eight kicks on the dummy
i heard about eight kicks at the end of the dummy form, but never learned them, dont know if thats the same thing every ones talking about
The 8 WC kicks as taught By D. Leung:
1.Tiu gerk
2.Dung gerk
3.Joh gerk
4.Chai gerk
5Chang gerk
6.Dang gerk
7.Tan gerk
8.Soh gerk
[QUOTE=deejaye72;1141952]i heard about eight kicks at the end of the dummy form, but never learned them, dont know if thats the same thing every ones talking about[/QUOTE]
I heard the same too, but not that they’re at the ‘end’, they’re hidden within the form itself. Like the stepping really. Very hard to learn from a book lol!!
My kung fu uncle Austin Goh teaches a Sup Look Gerk Fut form (16 kicking methods) and my Sifu teaches a Moi Faa Mook Jong set (Plum Flower Wooden Man) that also contains all our legwork. Both look a little different but are fundamentally the same imho.
I find it interesing that even the ‘terms’ of such stuff (which I thought was common knowledge!) varys from family to family. It still looks like it’s a well kept ‘secret’ from where I’m standing 
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1141934]VT kicking follows a ‘line’ of thought ;)[/QUOTE]
They are too hidden and secret for us Kev. LOL
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[QUOTE=Graham H;1142171]They are too hidden and secret for us Kev. LOL
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Point to point…
[QUOTE=Graham H;1142171]They are too hidden and secret for us Kev. LOL
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Point to point…
[QUOTE=Graham H;1142171]They are too hidden and secret for us Kev. LOL
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With all due respect G, I don’t think I have ever even seen you interested in the language or culture of Wing Chun so I presume you couldn’t care less for the terms everyone has shared here either! :eek:
AND I have yet to see any clip of any WSL guys using kicks, so you must have your own secrets too lol!
kicks
kick me! lol
no secret
i never thought they were a secret, just the more advanced guys were practicing it when i was a beginner, i just never thought to ask, i will ask my dad about them when i go to class. spencer it was probably just a way to practice them in a sequence for training like you said, no big deal
kicks
spencer your right i dont see wsl guys doing any kicking lol:) willian cheung guys do alot though :)
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1142191]With all due respect G, I don’t think I have ever even seen you interested in the language or culture of Wing Chun so I presume you couldn’t care less for the terms everyone has shared here either! :eek:
AND I have yet to see any clip of any WSL guys using kicks, so you must have your own secrets too lol! ;)[/QUOTE]
I will post clips later…
Eight Kicks of Wing Chun
Eight Leg Dummy Motions, for the eight kicks are drilled on the Wooden Dummy. The exponent holds his fists and stands facing Mook Yan Jong. Using the Dummy and "one leg at a time, "the eight motions are executed; changing legs, the drill is repeated. The techniques can be described thus:
- Low Front Kick (Dai Jing Gerk).
- Front Kick (Jing Gerk).
- Side Kick (Waang Gerk).
- Low Side Kick (Dai Waang Gerk).
- Instep Kick (Gerk Booie).
- Outside Snap Kick (Gaan Gerk).
- Upward Knee (Hay Sut).
- Scraping Kick (Yaai Gerk).
Wing Chun’s Eight Kicks are offensive leg maneuvers which introduce simple kicking skills. Upon examination, each kick demonstrates a striking area of the foot (or leg). Accordingly, eight points are utilized in the kicks described. Thus, a Low Front Kick (Dai Jing Gerk) connects near the centre of the foot; the Front Kick (Jing Gerk) employs a point above the heel. A Side Kick (Waang Gerk) demands an off-centre heel strike; the Low Side Kick (Dai Waang Gerk) uses the direct centre. The Instep (Gerk Booie) is easily described, while Outside Snap (Gaan Gerk) utilizes the outer heel. Upward Knee (Hay Sut) connects above the kneecap; Scraping Kick (Yai Gerk) uses the outside of the foot, etc.
This drill introduces primary kicking techniques as well as demonstrating striking areas for the foot. It should be noted that four angular positions are presented: the Side Kicks (Waang Gerk), Outside Snap (Gaan Gerk), and Scraping Kick (Yaai Gerk). All movements are executed slightly sideways. This suggests Wing Chun is hardly lacking in essential kicking maneuvers.
According to Wing Chun theory, the Front Kick (Jing Gerk) and Single Leg Stance (Gum Gai Duk Lop), on which the former is based, remain the ideal foundation for all subsequent leg application. It is said, “Sticky Legs practice is inseparable from the Single Leg stance.” In this regard, an instructor may claim to use just “one punch, one kick.” (But with eight variations thereof.) However, this does remind us of the importance of simplicity in all areas of Wing Chun training and practice.
in addition to that!
there are eight kicking principles and twelve leg blocks
[QUOTE=deejaye72;1142201]spencer your right i dont see wsl guys doing any kicking lol:) willian cheung guys do alot though :):)[/QUOTE]
There probably are some WSL students fighting clips but I haven’t seen any. I’ve seen forms and chi sau/o but no fighting. If there are some please direct me to them. They would be great to see. My Sifu says that WSL was a great fighter and I would like to see what his students have done regarding fighting resisting opponents.