Check out what Master Wong Kiew Kit thinks of BJJ.
In my opinion, jujitsu is the best of the non-Chinese martial arts. Unlike many other martial arts which are restricted to one category of attacks – like strikes in western boxing, kicks in taekwondo, and throws in jud – jujitsu is all-round. It is graceful as well as forceful. And its training is not detrimental to health, compared to, for example, the untreated injuries sustained in karate or kickboxing training. I cannot think of any weakness in jujitsu.
Jujitsu masters have done very well in international price-fighting competitions. They got their opponents to the ground, applied arm locks or neck locks on them, and won handsomely – without any tincture of crudeness or brutality that is not uncommon in many other martial arts.
Yet, their victory was due to their “kung”, although their techniques were excellent. It was not that their opponents did not know how to neutralize their locks, but because they had executed their locks so skilfully that despite knowing the counter-techniques, their opponents could not free themselves.
Most of us Kungfu guys feel this way but you have a few UFC wannabe’s running around who insult us and make us defensive. I personally think JJ is a great art but it isn’t the only one. Most JJ guys respect other arts but like I said there are a few “punks” running wild.
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I disagree. He shows he’s talking about BJJ when he says it has done very well in international price(sic)-fighting, and that they take their opponents to the ground and then aplies locks. I know Japanese JJ has this butto me it’s clear he’s refering to BJJ. What JJJ champs have been winning international prize fighting ?
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there’s more to international competition than bjj dude.
where have you been? ufc and nhb are pretty much western. there are plenty of prize fights in the rest of the world and even in places where bjj has not been heard of and where jujitsu has been around for ages.
Hmm, i belive its about Bjj he talks.
I love this guys site, i always wait for updates and stuff.
BTW, i’m still trying to find out why that Bjj guy have the nickname “Shaolin”. One time i asked on mixedmartialarts on the portuguese forum and no one could answer. Well, at least he shaves his head, that could be one reason…
Friday evening / The blood still on my hands
To think that she would leave me now / For that ungrateful man
Sole survivor / No witness to the crime
I must act fast to cover up / I think that there’s still time
He’d seem hopeless and lost with this note / They’ll buy into the words that I wrote
“This feeling inside me
Finally found my love, I’ve finally broke free
No longer torn in two
I’d take my own life before losing you”
well, I guess you guys will colour it however you like with “sounds like” and “seems like” but he never once mentions bjj, and only calls Jujitsu, jujitsu. Let’s not forget that Wong Kiew Kit is in Malaysia and not in the west. He calls a spade a spade and so on. yada yada yada.
the truth is wong kiew kit doesnt really know there is a difference between jujitsu and and bjj per say he hears jujitsu wins the competitions and doesnt understand its bjj he thinks its normal japanese jujitsu
I mean he thinks karate is how we view it mcdojo style. one punch at a time .
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You bloody bjj’ers! Always looking for validation aren’t you.
He never once says Brazilian or aludes to it. He’s a Malaysian guy who, like everybody else that’s not American, doesn’t believe that America is the centre of the universe. Therefore, all you guys talking about marketing, Bjj, etc. are just showing your national colours. Believe what you like, but he’s obviously talking about Jujitsu in general. If you want to lump bjj in with that, then fine, but he’s not talking about bjj specifically.
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Rorion trade marked the name Gracie Jiu Jitsu (much to his family members disapproval). The term Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is a general term referring to the modified fighting art developed by the Gracies in Brazil. It would include Machado Jiu Jitsu etc etc.
The Gracies learned JUDO, not classical JJJ. For whatever reason, they chose then to train and refine the groundwork rather than throwing.
The competition rules and evolution of the two arts have diverged sufficiently that I believe they are seperate entities, although some will insist that BJJ is just “Judo without the throws.” They are welcome to that opinion. I really don’t care much either way.
From this was born what in the US is called BJJ. Stabbingash, calling it BJJ isn’t a marketing “ploy.” It’s a way to distinguish it from JJJ… or should we call all styles of Kung Fu “Kung Fu?” Not very helpful, is it?
I know it’s just called jiujitsu in Brazil, but that wouldn’t help distinguish it in the US at all.
The Gracies learned JUDO from Mitsuyo Maeda. Maeda did not study JJJ. He may have been exposed to it, in much the same way that I have been exposed to boxing, but he did not study it.
Oh, and as a side note, most of us BJJers aren’t looking for validation… we’ve already got it in the form of BJJers with MMA victories and personal wins on the competition circuits. That said, there are some BJJer’s who will continue to spout the crap about BJJ being the end all be all. The same can be said of some wing chunners though so… que sera!
[This message was edited by Merryprankster on 11-21-01 at 08:11 PM.]
