classic match up an older but still good one.
if your not a fan of grappling then your probably going to find it boring. heads up.
Royce Gracie vs. Hidehiko Yoshida
never been a fan of the gracies… to much arrogance for my liking. Not taking away from what they’ve achieved just hate the nutriders as much as the next guy.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xeyhj_martial-arts-fight-judo-vs-jiu-jits
hey, I know, why don’t we all take a sleeping pill and throw some gay porn on?
holy crap that was the most boring form of sport fighting i have ever had to endure scrubbing through. lol 
If it’s not mixed with elbows, knees and bloody grease, it is BORING to watch and I don’t care how much fun it might be to do. It is boring boring boring. 
that is all
Bjj is simply judo. They emphasize the ground game of judo. It has little to do with jujutsu.
Jujutsu is the name used for several traditional styles which incorporate many methods of fighting (striking, throwing, locking, grappling [in and out of armor], rope tying methods, dagger techniques, etc.).
If it’s not mixed with elbows, knees and bloody grease, it is BORING to watch and I don’t care how much fun it might be to do. It is boring boring boring.
haha you can’t read can you… i gave you a warning before hand.
Judo guys like to use “slam” and BJJ guys are not. When a Judo guy applies a single leg or double legs, he will pick his opponent up, rotate his body, and then smash his opponent down to the ground with his own force behind it. A BJJ guy will just uses leg/legs pulling and shoulder push to force his opponent down to the ground. In orther words, a Judo guy will have intention to hurt his opponent with his throw. A BJJ guy may just want to start his ground game ASAP. The throw is just a way to reach to his goal.
[QUOTE=Dragonzbane76;1044547]classic match up an older but still good one.
if your not a fan of grappling then your probably going to find it boring. heads up.
Royce Gracie vs. Hidehiko Yoshida
never been a fan of the gracies… to much arrogance for my liking. Not taking away from what they’ve achieved just hate the nutriders as much as the next guy.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xeyhj_martial-arts-fight-judo-vs-jiu-jits[/QUOTE]
Thank you for posting this, it was very educational.
Bigger stronger guy with similar skill sets on home turf.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1044631]Judo guys like to use “slam” and BJJ guys are not. When a Judo guy applies a single leg or double legs, he will pick his opponent up, rotate his body, and then smash his opponent down to the ground with his own force behind it. A BJJ guy will just uses leg/legs pulling and shoulder push to force his opponent down to the ground. In orther words, a Judo guy will have intention to hurt his opponent with his throw. A BJJ guy may just want to start his ground game ASAP. The throw is just a way to reach to his goal.[/QUOTE]
A very solid assessment.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1044564]hey, I know, why don’t we all take a sleeping pill and throw some gay porn on?
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David;
Buddy we gotta talk (ROTFLMAO)
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1044564]hey, I know, why don’t we all take a sleeping pill and throw some gay porn on?[/QUOTE]
You mean the same thing you do every night?
[QUOTE=mooyingmantis;1044596]Bjj is simply judo. [/QUOTE]
I once read that BJJ = Basically Just Judo
I sat through the ad, the video played one second, and then reloaded and the ad started again.
I turned it off.
I refused to watch forced ads. Google ads here and there aren’t too annoying, even the ones at the bottom of Youtube can be minimized, but when it FORCES you to watch an ad before the video starts, fvck that. I might as well watch TV if I wanted to be forced to watch ads.
Forced ads are ruining the internet.
the internet is regarded as a massive exposure and advertising platform taht is cheaper than virtually all other media to use.
seriously, you can run a campaign on the internet and go viral and outstrip the big boys and their multi million dollar campaigns.
as more people grow to understand that, I am hoping to see less ads on tv!
[QUOTE=mooyingmantis;1044596]Bjj is simply judo. They emphasize the ground game of judo. It has little to do with jujutsu.
Jujutsu is the name used for several traditional styles which incorporate many methods of fighting (striking, throwing, locking, grappling [in and out of armor], rope tying methods, dagger techniques, etc.).[/QUOTE]
Judo comes from Jujutsu. Kano turned Judo into a massive commercial product through exciting tournaments and heavy sparring (just like MMA is doing to TMA). Limiting it to a sporting aspect. Traditional Japanese JJ includes all of what you stated, including eye strikes, throat strikes, small joint manipulations (fingers, toes)…but these are unsporty and difficult or even impossible to spar at 100% in any dojo (ie. you can only pretend to eye strike someone). While you can spar and compete at 100% in Judo with rules.
Also, no one wants to pay money to watch people eye poke, bend pinky fingers, etc. Nor would athletes want to devote 5-8 hours a day training such techniques.
Maeda, a famous Judoka and bare fist brawler, brought his teachings to Brazil and taught the Gracies. It’s not 100% certain, but I don’t think he only taught them Judo. I think Maeda taught them what he knew about Japanese Jiu-Jitsu with Judo, which includes standup striking, throws, standing locks, ground fighting, etc. The Brazilians do have such JJJ techniques/curriculum…but they call it “Self Defense” to not detract from their universal CASH COW, being “Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu”. If the Brazilians included these standup techniques in BJJ, then it’s just JJJ and not as much BJJ.
The Gracies took what Maeda taught them and greatly improved the ground aspect of JJJ and turned it into a spinoff of JJJ. My BJJ sensei is from a long line of Judokas in Brazil with his father being a 10th degree. He was a badass in Judo when he was young (my sensei), until he said one day, a BJJ guy under Rickson Gracie came into his family’s Judo dojo and whooped him repeatedly. Which was when he switched to BJJ under the teachings of this guy that whooped him.
Again, it’s the sportiness of BJJ is what attracts many competitors & students…so that they can go all out in sparring and competition.
[QUOTE=mooyingmantis;1044596]Bjj is simply judo. They emphasize the ground game of judo. It has little to do with jujutsu.
Jujutsu is the name used for several traditional styles which incorporate many methods of fighting (striking, throwing, locking, grappling [in and out of armor], rope tying methods, dagger techniques, etc.).[/QUOTE]
BJJ is not simply judo, just as SAMBO is not simply judo. Both BJJ and SAMBO started out as judo, and each branched off in different specializations. BJJ specialized in groundwork. After 70 years, it is pretty much a completely different discipline now; Although there are quite a few similar techniques, there are also many that are completely different.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1044631]Judo guys like to use “slam” and BJJ guys are not. When a Judo guy applies a single leg or double legs, he will pick his opponent up, rotate his body, and then smash his opponent down to the ground with his own force behind it. A BJJ guy will just uses leg/legs pulling and shoulder push to force his opponent down to the ground. In orther words, a Judo guy will have intention to hurt his opponent with his throw. A BJJ guy may just want to start his ground game ASAP. The throw is just a way to reach to his goal.[/QUOTE]
BJJ guys also slam if they can. The reason you see more high impact throws in judo is because judo guys are better at throwing, since this is what they specialize in.
[QUOTE=gunbeatskroty;1045143]Judo comes from Jujutsu. Kano turned Judo into a massive commercial product through exciting tournaments and heavy sparring (just like MMA is doing to TMA). Limiting it to a sporting aspect. Traditional Japanese JJ includes all of what you stated, including eye strikes, throat strikes, small joint manipulations (fingers, toes)…but these are unsporty and difficult or even impossible to spar at 100% in any dojo (ie. you can only pretend to eye strike someone). While you can spar and compete at 100% in Judo with rules. [/QUOTE]
Kano’s basic thesis was that, since Jujutsu’s “deadly techniques” could not be practiced at full force, they were ineffective. He used his philosophy of full out training with safer techniques to challenge the jujutsu guys and, basically, smashed them.
Pretty much the same principle used the modern full contact “sport” styles vs. traditional “deadly styles” challenge matches like these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqD8Odaebw
http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_550606
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LZVDVEKRrI
Kung fu means skill acquired through hard work.
I didn’t see one kung fu exponent.
[QUOTE=Lokhopkuen;1045369]Kung fu means skill acquired through hard work.
I didn’t see one kung fu exponent.[/QUOTE]
Really? There’s all kinds of hard work…
I’ve taken up a secret style of ground fighting to deadly for the street.
[QUOTE=Kansuke;1045370]Really? There’s all kinds of hard work…[/QUOTE]
I meant the fellows “labeled” Kung Fu Fighters:rolleyes: