Since so many enthusiast wants to define the Realism 21th century WCK.
So, what is that WCK power generation for the 21th century?
how is it? why is it the way it is? what is the process or generation? how is it fit into SNT(hopefully UDA approve :D) ? how is it compare with keng geng? how to condition it? what platfrom? how is it tested? has it been tested or just an idea?
All kind of Questions for the futuristics people!
CAre to share?
hello New Wine-ers.
Share Share! :D:D:D
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
[B]hello New Wine-ers.
Share Share! :D:D:D [/B]
why should i teach you what real power is when you can not even produce your fantasy power 
this would not be a fair exchange 
Originally posted by Ernie
this would not be a fair exchange
I have a Million dollars in Monopoly money that I am willing to exchange for 1 million US$. Any takers?
Originally posted by Matrix
I have a Million dollars in Monopoly money that I am willing to exchange for 1 million US$. Any takers?
i’ll trade you for the special secret closed door wing chun super engine blue print i found at the bottom of my cracker jacks with my secret decoder ring
Sold!!!
Who said that there was a sucker born every minute?
Dont you people from the 21th century love, formulate, simulation, realtime Test, production test, FDA approval…?
Ok, so what platform What power generation what structure what reason what simulation what realtime test what double blind test?
Is your power generation better then Keng Geng?
Originally posted by Ernie
[B]why should i teach you what real power is when you can not even produce your fantasy power
this would not be a fair exchange [/B]
who tested your real power?
is it a fantasy after some wine?
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
[B]who tested your real power?
is it a fantasy after some wine? [/B]
your welcome to any time i have nothing to hide
can you say the same :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Vajramusti
[B]Who said that there was a sucker born every minute?
PT Barnum? [/B]
Joy,
I believe that quote was falsely associated with PT Barnum. So I’ve been told, but no one has been able to tell me who really said it. So, rightly or wrongly PT gets stuck with it.
By the way, it was a rehtorical question…but thanks for chiming in. I always enjoy hearing from you. 
Originally posted by Ernie
your welcome to any time i have nothing to hide
can you say the same :rolleyes:
Since Oyama is sloppy for you…
I thought you are going to get the World TOP fighters in K1 or Muay Thai or BJJ or BoXing … to test your Power to make it valid!
otherwise, your comment of Mas Oyama…etc has no prof since you are not proven, right?
It is always easy to comment on the past and fear of the future isnt it?’ where is the proof of your real power vesus today’s top fighters? without proof I rather buying Oyama’s Kyokushin story. at least he proof his power
As A Kyokushin, hey I join that Kyokushin open KO tournoment before so that tell me where I am. I dont need any personal test after the open test.
I have nothing to hide in a Kyokushin Open, and Cant hide anything. Can you say the same?
And I am not the one who will create those Super Wing Chun for the 21th century too. That is your JOB Bro!
In Oyama I trust. In you, sure I always will trust once you proof your power similar to Oyama. :D:D:D
now back to the topic:
Since so many enthusiast wants to define the Realism 21th century WCK.
So, what is that WCK power generation for the 21th century?
how is it? why is it the way it is? what is the process or generation? how is it fit into SNT(hopefully UDA approve ) ? how is it compare with keng geng? how to condition it? what platfrom? how is it tested? has it been tested or just an idea?
All kind of Questions for the futuristics people!
Hi Hendrik,
What’s the body mechanics involved with the cho family shock power striking method? is it the same as chen tai chi’s “fa jing”
Originally posted by kung fu fighter
Hi Hendrik,
What’s the body mechanics involved with the cho family shock power striking method? is it the same as chen tai chi’s “fa jing”
First, you are posting in a WRONG area. The topic of this area is Realism WCK power generation for the 21th century.
Nothing to do with the past.
and
I thought WCK from the red boat is from White CRane Weng Chun but not from Chen Tai Chi, no?
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
[B]Since Oyama is sloppy for you…
I thought you are going to get the World TOP fighters in K1 or Muay Thai or BJJ or BoXing … to test your Power to make it valid!
otherwise, your comment of Mas Oyama…etc has no prof since you are not proven, right?
It is always easy to comment on the past and fear of the future isnt it?’ where is the proof of your real power vesus today’s top fighters? without proof I rather buying Oyama’s Kyokushin story. at least he proof his power
As A Kyokushin, hey I join that Kyokushin open KO tournoment before so that tell me where I am. I dont need any personal test after the open test.
I have nothing to hide in a Kyokushin Open, and Cant hide anything. Can you say the same?
And I am not the one who will create those Super Wing Chun for the 21th century too. That is your JOB Bro!
In Oyama I trust. In you, sure I always will trust once you proof your power similar to Oyama. :D:D:D
now back to the topic:
Since so many enthusiast wants to define the Realism 21th century WCK.
So, what is that WCK power generation for the 21th century?
how is it? why is it the way it is? what is the process or generation? how is it fit into SNT(hopefully UDA approve ) ? how is it compare with keng geng? how to condition it? what platfrom? how is it tested? has it been tested or just an idea?
All kind of Questions for the futuristics people! [/B]
–Hendrik it’s not about master O or K1
it’s about you and me
you say you have the magic super jing
i say cool , show me
you say i have had no one test my power
i say cool , let me show you
see real simple , not a challenge just trying clear things up
no need to run around and round when a striaght line will work
ps i live to research if there is something to learn i’m all for it , but the person claiming to have this ability should be able to prove it on at least a small level don’t you think
talking is easy doing now that is something else
Originally posted by Ernie
[B]–Hendrik it’s not about master O or K1
it’s about you and me
you say you have the magic super jing
i say cool , show me
you say i have had no one test my power
i say cool , let me show you
see real simple , not a challenge just trying clear things up
no need to run around and round when a striaght line will work
ps i live to research if there is something to learn i’m all for it , but the person claiming to have this ability should be able to prove it on at least a small level don’t you think
talking is easy doing now that is something else [/B]
what I learn from Mas Oyama’s kyokushin way to generate power was tested thousands of time by Mas Oyama’s and Kyokhushin members around the world. Isnt that enough for the proof?
You can beat me. sure. and furthermore what is that got to do with power generation?
and, that still doesnt say much about your real power right?
as you said " single incident " tested on the no body.
In Mas Oyama I trust in his kyokushin way of power generation since hundred of thousand of people use it and works and Mas Oyama DOESNT have to beat me to proof his power generation work, right?
REAL GOOD POWER GENERATION is about a good process which can be learn and improve power generation performance who uses it. The improvement is absolute and can be measure in term of a particula person.
That process has nothing todo with who is better. But, it can make one better/improve in generate power.
ME and You is about EGO. having a good power generation process which can be described, shared, and let others train and benifit, make the weak strong and the strong even stronger is the power of the process itself beyond EGO.
We certainly has a different way of looking at power generation. Your’s is the oriental SIFU way where who is going to proof it to whom. Mine is the western Coach way to investigate if the power generation process does work for everyone and let them improve themself instead of proof to anyone. nothing good or bad just different. :D:D:D
we are certainly view things differently Bro.
your point is well taken /respected and I understood where you are from.
But, I dont see thing as you do.
HEN__ what I learn from Mas Oyama’s kyokushin way to generate power was tested thousands of time by Mas Oyama’s and Kyokhushin members around the world. Isnt that enough for the proof?
–what people do or did around the world has nothing to do with you and me , you keep talking about jing , keng and so on , great then you must be able to do it ! great
then lets see it study it and so how you train it , just talking about it does nothing
i have no problem showing you and discussing and sharing the methods of power training i have been exposed to , what is good or bette doesn’t matter it’s about people growing and doing what they say they can do , this way no one is being fake or pushing a fantasy
i for one would be very excited if you could back up what you say that would be gold and i have no problem saying wow i was wrong
trust me i love being wrong that means i just grew and learned
Hen-You can beat me. sure. and furthermore what is that got to do with power generation?
and, that still doesnt say much about your real power right?
as you said " single incident " tested on the no body.
— we are both nobodies and beating you up is the last thing on my mind hell if you can do what you say you can then i will be on the ground looking at you with a big smile on my face saying , hell ya do it again ,
it’s the only way to research something you need to put yourself on the line and feel it
i’m not a competitive person , i just don’t like BS it waste to much time
Hen-In Mas Oyama I trust in his kyokushin way of power generation since hundred of thousand of people use it and works and Mas Oyama does have to beat me to proof his power generation work, right?
your are not Master O , i am not Master O , that has nothing to do with anything , just two regular guys expressing training methods .
i don’t claim to have the special secret lost art of super power you do
i just want to see what all the talk is about .
Originally posted by Ernie
[B]
–what people do or did around the world has nothing to do with you and me , you keep talking about jing , keng and so on , great then you must be able to do it ! great
then lets see it study it and so how you train it , just talking about it does nothing
. [/B]
As I update my post above. You can see how we view things differently.
I talk about
KEng, jing … because they are WCK’s Tradition. dont we want to figure out what is what about WCK?
As I post in many post , I am trying to find out about it.
If we dont know anything about it — what is it, the process… but just heard those from the past generation. How one is suppose to train or does anything with it?
you make an asumption here "you keep talking about jing , keng and so on , great then you must be able to do it "
Can I make the same assumption that — since you are a WCK sifu you certainly knows Keng Geng?
Can I make the same assumption that — since you are a WCK sifu you certainly knows Keng Geng?
– from my understanding of what it is YES !
my ability is still young and needs to grow but the training method , strucutre , mental intent have all been exposed to me
but perhaps what you seek is not the same
this i can not answer
but i have felt this type of power deep sharp penetrating power
in other arts and people as well
useing different mechanics
so as you i seek research and proof
i don’t need it to fit the WCK label , i have no desire to preserve anything if it is not functional
i look at things more in a world and human view not country or race label
this way i can be open to research and experience with out prejudice
Originally posted by Ernie
[B]Can I make the same assumption that — since you are a WCK sifu you certainly knows Keng Geng?
– from my understanding of what it is YES !
my ability is still young and needs to grow but the training method , strucutre , mental intent have all been exposed to me
but perhaps what you seek is not the same
this i can not answer
but i have felt this type of power deep sharp penetrating power
in other arts and people as well
useing different mechanics
so as you i seek research and proof
i don’t need it to fit the WCK label , i have no desire to preserve anything if it is not functional
i look at things more in a world and human view not country or race label
this way i can be open to research and experience with out prejudice [/B]
I can certainly understand your view. However, I like to say that there are many many different views in this world which will arrive at same destination more or less.
So, That is the important about communication and not holding one’s view as the truth.
Saying that, sure I am guilty of teasing people and being assertive to.