No-holds-barred Kung Fu tournament

Would anyone be interested in entering or watching a no holds barred kung fu tournament? I mean only kung fu, and not Kimpo or any only modified stuff. In addition to that, you must use the style you practice. For example, if you do Ba Gua, you can’t fight like a kick boxer.

Would anyone be interested? :smiley:

That would be fun.
If you do such thing please put it on the internet for us to watch :slight_smile:


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Richie,

Is this just an idea, or do you have an event planned?

If this is planned, then please post details as to location, date, rules, etc.

Thanks.

That would be pretty damn cool.

Are we talking Sanshou?

Are we talking sanshou or a NHB tourney?? I would be really interested, I am ready to start competing again!

You’re kidding right?

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I am the first to admit that your idea sounds good, in theory but unless there is people out there that know kung fu and are willing to die your suggestion will never work. And there would not be too many takers. For that reason you would have to implement rules. These rules would limit some styles and the fights would turn out to look like kick-boxing.
Tournaments often look like kick-boxing matches even thought there are different styles in the match. This is because they are under kick boxing rules therefore the scoring system is in favour of kick-boxing techniques so one would be stupid not to implement a kick-boxing approach to the match.
So it would be hard to make up rules that are not like those of kick-boxing, and that would allow full use of kung fu techniques and would still be safe.

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Sounds good !

What exactly do you mean by no-holds barred though. Elbows, eye pokes, throat and groin strikes allowed ??

What do you have in mind ?

Curious?

How would probable death dissuade people from entering?

When you’r telling one of your little stories, here’s a idea; Have a point, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

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Rules

The rules of such an event would be realistic. The term NHB is a relative term. Eye attacks, throat attacks and certain pressure point attacks would not be allow. However, elbows, knees, and Chin na would be allowed. Groin attacks will probably not be allowed, because the problems other NHB tournaments had. Also, If it goes to the ground and there is no finishing move or quick technique, the fighters will have to seperate and stand up.

You also must prove the validity of your skills. Not just anyone with a black sash can enter. I feel it is very important that it isn’t kick boxing. I’ve seen fighters who say that they do a style and their sparring and fighting is THAT style.

I feel the problem is that there is a lot of crap out there and when people see that crap, they think that Chinese martial arts is crap. This is not true. CMA is probably the best MA out there

As for is this tournament in the making? It’s still on the drawing board. I’ve talked to a few people, but I haven’t spoken to any promoter yet. I want to know if this is a good idea or a waste of time.

Sounds good in principle.

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Well since no eye or groin strikes this would be good for everyone except a kung fu man…don’t tell me your not going to allow dim mak and empty force strikes either.

sounds like a great ideè! BUT, u should have alowed groin strikes and preasure points. that will make it more like Kung fu u know?

What u should do, for real I mean. Tazlk to some respective masters, instructors that u know of. e-mejl as many as u can find about this idee and try to find people that are willing to enter first.

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Not to flame, but…

What exactly would the point be? You have stated that there will be rules - which for safety reasons there have to be - so it’s really not reality fighting and seems like it would most likely resemble pride or some other currently existing tourneys. If a kung fu stylist would enter that, he may as well give pride a try also. Also, that will help in giving a bas rep to kung fu, as people will say “They will only fight if they are fighting other kung fu styles. Why won’t they fight a thai boxer or submission grappler?” By limiting the styles that can enter, you once again take away from the reality, as in the street chances are yoor opponent will not be someone trained in CMA.

“Also, If it goes to the ground and there is no finishing move or quick technique, the fighters will have to seperate and stand up.”

Does that mean no ground and pound? that also takes away from the reality of the event. this would be nothing more than full contact continuous sparring, from the sounds of it.

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I agree, any style should be able to compete. The burden would still be up to us kung fu guys to show the stuff. And that’s all that this thread is about; Getting a better rep for kung fu.

I never liked the clinche and stop of the kickboxing.

The only foul rules would be no eye strikes or blinds. Moderate groin strikes, both must wear cup. Death, of course, would disqualify you and your opponent.

The only rules for fighting for both striking and locking would be a general ban on techniques that lead to permanent or life threatening damage, in other words, nothing that would be designed to maim instantly and with little force.

All clawing, soft tissue manipulations, stiking of any variety with any part of the body, hard takedowns, submissions, “real time” continuity, are allowed at any point in the match.

No stopping for takedowns. Allowing attacks on the recovering man. All striking allowed to grounded opponents while standing or earthlevel.

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you know considering there is enough trashy nhb events and stuff , and kung fu guys dont really like to enter them for obvious reasons like hmmm no i dont really want to crack open someones head with my iron palm, I cant see who would spar in this “ancient kung fu competition”

OH except for mcdojo guys and wushu practitioners who will give kung fu a bad name !

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Good points from Seven Star, SifuAble and Wong.

Basically, why not just enter a typical NHB competition? It would do lots more for bettering kungfu’s public rep.

SifuAble proposes a nice set of rules, though.

I propose an addition of a time limit : 3 minutes (or maybe even less). If the fight isn’t over in three minutes, it’s a draw.

And SifuWong, I think that’s the problem. It would attract the kungfu guys who really shouldn’t be representing CMA.

However, theoretically, if the selection is tight it might get a few good entries. With a tight selection process it’ll get judged as overly selective though and some parties will cry foul play.

Also, restricting pressure point striking might be a bit difficult.

Anyway, despite a lot of problems .. sure, why not.

Vasco, people can die, thats a fact. People died in that tournament in 1928.
But i dont think it would keep people from entering, because today the probabilities of having death in such match is a lot smaller than in more than 60 years ago.


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