MMA website

not to start controversy over this and not try to hurt feelings but why dont all the MMA on here create a MMA website so you can discuss the intertest that you share insead of coming onto a kung fu website and speaking badly about it?

It would seem this would aliviate alot of this bickering about who’s badder and whats better.

I dont log onto boxing websites and talk about how limited boxing is so why do the MMA guys do it here on a kung fu website?

I know its the MAIN board that gets most of these discussions but it is a kung fu magazine who created and host this board, so to me it doenst make much sense. unless of course they have some sort of self justification to prove to themselves.

serious replies only

there is an mma board on here.

although I would say that is not the agenda of those who insist on inserting their “this training is superior to your pyjamas” ad nauseum shpiel.

mma can be learned from, it’s an simple enough observation.

claims of “better than” are as old as the hills.

It’s a forum, it’s all talk.

People that want to actively fight will fight.
People who are interested in history will pursue that.
Guys interested in forms and styles, lineages et al, they’ll do that.
And the tide ebbs and flows twice in a day. :slight_smile:

I realize there is a MMA board on here but strangley enough none of the MMA vs Kung fu guys post on there(^!@!$#@&^$(&*_ WTF why not? this is very confusing, so MMA lovers would rather come on the KUNG FU board and bash kung fu then log onto the MMA board and talk there?

God love the internet

When I was in a Judo forum, one guy said, “You are not even a Judoka. Nobody care about your opinion. Why are you still hanging around here?” I left that forum soon after that.

If it works for me, it may work for others.

you would think that this board would do the same however we continue on the same redundant conversation.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1042816]When I was in a Judo forum, one guy said, “You are not even a Judoka. Nobody care about your opinion. Why are you still hanging around here?” I left that forum soon after that.

If it works for me, it may work for others.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know, you’ve got that spike ring and all… :stuck_out_tongue:

Forums where everyone agrees are dead.

sanhechaun, good answer… thats why I asked the question, I would have never thought of it in that way, thank you

[QUOTE=SanHeChuan;1042821]Forums where everyone agrees are dead.[/QUOTE]

Forums where people just argue for the sake of argument will soon be dead too. One drop of the rat’s poop can destroy the whole pot of good soup. One unfriendly member can destroy the harmony of the whole forum.

if they trained as much as they defended thier sport they would all be champions:D

I don’t watch FOX news, but when CNN and MSNBC responsed to Glenn Beck’s comment, it just help Glenn Beck to get more publicity. Sometime it’s the fault of the CNN and MSNBC.

Sometime I tried to drag “combat” into “self cultivation” discussion, when people just ignored my comments, soon I try to stay out of those discussion. Everybody is happy, the problem is solved, and the world is so peaceful.

Again, if it works for me, it may work for others.

In order to bring the topic of combat into a topic of self cultivation, saving a maiden has to be factored in. :slight_smile:

Here’s a snippet from The Cluetrain Manifesto that explains the phenomenon as good as any:

"In the early days, the Internet was used almost exclusively for government-funded projects and the sort of communication that went along with such work. Here’s the new program. It needs some work. There’s a bug in the frimular module. Yawn.

But you know what they say about all work and no play. People began to play. Left to themselves, they always do. And the people building the Internet were pretty much left to themselves. They were creating the gameboard. No one else knew how the hell this thing worked, so no one could tell them what they could and couldn’t do. They did whatever they liked. And one of the things they liked most was arguing.

Consider that these early denizens of the Net were, for the most part, young, brash, untrained in the intricate dance of corporate politics, and highly knowledgeable of their craft. In the prized and noble older sense of the term, they were hackers, and proud of it. Many, in their own assessment if not that of others, were net.gods — high priests of an arcane art very few even knew existed. When disagreements arose over serious matters — the correct use of quotation marks, say — they would join in battle like old Norse warriors:

“Jim, you are a complete idiot. Your code is so brain-damaged it won’t even compile. Read a book, moron.”

Today, we tend to think of “flaming” as a handful of people vociferously insulting each other online. A certain sense of finesse has largely been lost. In the olden days, a good flame war could go on for weeks or months, with hot invective flying around like rhetorical shrapnel. It was high art, high entertainment. Though tempers flared hot and professional bridges were sometimes irreparably burned, ultimately it was a game — a participatory sport in which the audience awarded points for felicitous disparagements, particularly well-worded putdowns, inspired squelches.

It was not a game, however, for the meek of heart. These engagements could be fierce. Even trying to separate the contestants could bring down a hail of sharp-tongued derision. Theories were floated and defended with extreme energy and enthusiasm, if not always with logical rigor. Opinions tended to run high on any given topic. Say you’d posted about your dog. And, look, you got a response! “Jim, you are a complete idiot. Your dog is so brain-damaged it won’t even hunt…”

If you’d happened to see the first version of the comment to Jim, you might grin at the second. If not, your mileage might vary. But the point is not to extol flame wars, as amusing as some could be. Instead, it is to suggest a particular set of values that began to emerge in what linguists might call a well-bounded speech community. On the Net, you said what you meant and had better be ready to explain your position and how you’d arrived at it. Mouthing platitudes guaranteed that you would be challenged. Nothing was accepted at face value, or taken for granted. Everything was subject to question, revision, re-implementation, parody — whether it was an algorithm, a political philosophy or, God help you, an advertisement."

if you’re gonna copy and paste some article from the readers digest you should credit the author.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1042879]if you’re gonna copy and paste some article from the readers digest you should credit the author.[/QUOTE]

“Here’s a snippet from The Cluetrain Manifesto that explains the phenomenon as good as any:”

WOW! You really are as stupid as I thought you were.

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1042806]

I dont log onto boxing websites and talk about how limited boxing is so why do the MMA guys do it here on a kung fu website?[/QUOTE]

To posture mostly

though not all of them are like that some are/were kung fu guys or are interested in kung fu and like the magazine

Concerning the topic of the thread, MMA is a large staple in the martial arts community, whether or not you consider that good or bad is up to you. But you will always see this argument, no matter how old and tired it is, and it is old and tired. There are antagonists on both sides of the argument, and I see threads pop up such as this from both sides. My thoughts are that discussion on martial arts is healthy. Yes, it is a Kung Fu forum, yes most people here study or have studied some form of Kung Fu in the past.

But I find the best discussions are about training methods and how they benefit one’s art of choice. There are many things Kung Fu can learn from MMA, equally, there are many things MMA can learn from Kung Fu. Of course, most people would rather pi**ss and moan.:smiley:

[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1042883]“Here’s a snippet from The Cluetrain Manifesto that explains the phenomenon as good as any:”

WOW! You really are as stupid as I thought you were.[/QUOTE]

Dale, you are a tiny and bitter man with a tiny and bitter mind. I feel pity for you. so old, so tiny, all shriveled up and still so bitter and mean at heart. It’s fun taunting you though. hee hee :smiley:

[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1042883]“Here’s a snippet from The Cluetrain Manifesto that explains the phenomenon as good as any:”

WOW! You really are as stupid as I thought you were.[/QUOTE]

That’s not even close to a proper APA citation. Geez. Kids these days.

[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1042890]Concerning the topic of the thread, MMA is a large staple in the martial arts community, whether or not you consider that good or bad is up to you. But you will always see this argument, no matter how old and tired it is, and it is old and tired.[/quote]

The problem is that we always see this argument in the Kung Fu threads and forums, and not the MMA ones!

You know very well that the main antagonism comes from the MMA camp!

So they say, but I doubt that most people here have had proper training under a proper sifu, or else they would not insist on making clueless criticizms of the TCMAs.

What we suffer in this forum is the phenomenom of many Mcdojo trained former “kung fu-ists”, who are now preaching the MMA ways, without having to admit that they had been duped by Mcdojo/kwoon marketing. So, they put down and criticize traditional CMA practices that are way above their heads, just to sell us their post Mcdojo, MMA “enlightenment”!

To know exactly what MMA has that Kung Fu can benefit from, one would first need intensive training in TCMA, under an authentic sifu, in an authentic kwoon, as solid and authentic MMA training does not qualify one to judge and disrespect traditional practices that one does not understand!

How many of the MMA kung fu critiques have done that in this forum?

Unfortunately, most of the p!ssers and moaners in question are MMA-ists, and that is what the subject matter of this thread is highlighting, in due fact of this being a Kung Fu forum!!