is because we have to be. Ignoring people who train MMA won’t make them go away and those are the techniques you better learn how to deal with using TCMA.
The truth is, MMA is a more accurate sparring/fighting format for kung fu than san shou/san da. Little gloves, limited rules, and lots of opportunites to apply locks and chokes.
I’m still waiting to see why MMA want to gravitate to a TCMA forum. Is it to bash us? is it to bully us? Is it a ploy to get people to leave TCMA and go to MMA?
The only people who rattle on about “mma” are those who have built castles in the air and live in kung fu fairy land … When crazy people with delusions are confronted with reality, they ALWAYS respond violently, it’s textbook
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1127237]I’m still waiting to see why MMA want to gravitate to a TCMA forum. Is it to bash us? is it to bully us? Is it a ploy to get people to leave TCMA and go to MMA?[/QUOTE]
Because most of the “knucklehead nuttriders” are actually TCMA too or were TCMA first and see that it’s still relevant. Where any disagreement comes in is that MMA Knuckleheads aren’t willing to say that any one thing is the ultimate.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1127239]Because most of the “knucklehead nuttriders” are actually TCMA too or were TCMA first and see that it’s still relevant. Where any disagreement comes in is that MMA Knuckleheads aren’t willing to say that any one thing is the ultimate.[/QUOTE]
ALL of the people called “MMA people” on here actually have backgrounds in CMA. ALL OF THEM. The “kung fu fairies” ™ just want everyone to say CMA is the most advanced, the most effective and the best and don’t want anything like reality sneaking into their fantasy lands
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1127240]ALL of the people called “MMA people” on here actually have backgrounds in CMA. ALL OF THEM. The “kung fu fairies” ™ just want everyone to say CMA is the most advanced, the most effective and the best and don’t want anything like reality sneaking into their fantasy lands[/QUOTE]
If you have a mac - press (option R) and you get ®. So now we can say “Kung Fu Fairies®” 
[QUOTE=MightyB;1127230]is because we have to be. Ignoring people who train MMA won’t make them go away and those are the techniques you better learn how to deal with using TCMA.[/QUOTE]
This is true. It is folly to ignore how others train when one is pursuing martial art.
You should always have an eye to what they are doing and to take what you can from those successful aspects of their training that are not overlapping or found in your own.
I don’t think that is the issue and I also think that the fairy land kung fu people are irrelevant to Kung Fu and the development of it. They are there to keep it stagnant with old ways and closed eyes.
screw those guys, lol.
TO be fair though, there is a brand of ignorance that arises when a person with experience and knowledge of neither picks one because of it’s popularity and that’s where we get a lot of the sparks.
some kid, fresh off watching the latest UFC calls a 20 year practitioner a H0M0 and loser and then proceeds to prattle on about how an RNC would drop the Kung Fu guy like a bad habit and so on and so forth.
Screw that guy too. lol
There is common sense and common ground. Not wanting to find it or take it is retarded essentially.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1127242]
I also think that the fairy land kung fu people are irrelevant to Kung Fu
screw those guys, lol.
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you shouldn’t have locked the other thread, you should have let hardwork keep spouting, it’s all he is good for anyway
Hardwork, people are calling you to this thread. Do what you do. hahahaha
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1127246]you shouldn’t have locked the other thread, you should have let hardwork keep spouting, it’s all he is good for anyway[/QUOTE]
It was spiraling into a flaming nose dive.
Can’t have that. 
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1127251]It was spiraling into a flaming nose dive.
Can’t have that. :p[/QUOTE]
He’s in a constant state of flaming nose dive, yup, definitely “FLAMING”
Answering legit questions and situations posed by MMA is NOT obsessing about it.
Fact is that TCMA is MMA, it is a mix of MA and it is a mix of martial art techniques - punch , kick, throw and lock.
As such MMA is DIRECTLY relevant to TCMA.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1127253]He’s in a constant state of flaming nose dive, yup, definitely “FLAMING”
Besides, I wanted to hear what happened to his mother, even though I was pretty sure it involved a zorro mask, a cape and a donkey :D[/QUOTE]
Not cool dude, not cool at all, trust me on this one.
Not appropriate at all.
Hey I’ve got an idea, let’s not derail this with our personal beefs with other posters here!
what a great idea!
Not cool dude, not cool at all, trust me on this one.
Not appropriate at all.
yup. not cool at all.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1127258]Hey I’ve got an idea, let’s not derail this with our personal beefs with other posters here!
what a great idea![/QUOTE]
If he is in fact a little light in the kung fu shoes, there’s nothing wrong with that 
To stay ON TOPIC, you must note that when the typical kung fu fairy ™ can’t offer a reasonable argument or evidence THEY are the first ones to resort to personal attacks
and I’d say suggesting people didn’t learn “real stuff” IS a personal attack.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1127255]Answering legit questions and situations posed by MMA is NOT obsessing about it.
Fact is that TCMA is MMA, it is a mix of MA and it is a mix of martial art techniques - punch , kick, throw and lock.
As such MMA is DIRECTLY relevant to TCMA.[/QUOTE]
well, THIS, of course, but none of the “kung fu fairies” ™ acknowledge this
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1127255]Answering legit questions and situations posed by MMA is NOT obsessing about it.
Fact is that TCMA is MMA, it is a mix of MA and it is a mix of martial art techniques - punch , kick, throw and lock.
As such MMA is DIRECTLY relevant to TCMA.[/QUOTE]
I think that when people say MMA what they mean is the competitive ruleset.
Not literal crosstraining.
So, some threads have people talking about two different things without realizing it at first.
I do it too. when I say MMA, what I usually mean is a competition in a ring/cage. But to some it could mean simply training hsing-i, shuai chiao plus wrestling.
MMA is a mindset
many “traditional” people think you can only do what your sifu and/or system teaches. They certainly don’t think you can go outside Chinese martial arts
MMA people care about what works, they don’t care where it comes from, which is why they are better for it