MMA is not about pulling guard. alort of the clinching skills involve wrestling takedowns and clinchwork. Once I take you down, I retain control. we do train combination takedowns and committment to our takedowns and throws. Breakfalling is indeed part of our training - that’s common sense, as takedows and throws do get performed. You don’t always go to the ground nicely.
As for standing joint locks, they are too unlikely to work in a fight. they are referred to as low % techniques. You don’t have the same control of the person standing that you would on the ground.
the first approach you mentioned would be unsuccessful most of the time. You will not throw many people merely by controlling their arm. you have to control their body. Judo works because of kazushi - you are first off balanced - THEN they throw you.
MMA is not mixing random styles and teaching what’s useful from them - that’s more of a jkd model. MMA is two things - striking and grappling. I wouldn’t call combining 7* and taiji as mma, however I would consider tkd and wrestling as mma.
It’s very difficult to pull your opponent down now, what with most people doing MMA not letting you do that any more. The days of guard pulling like that are pretty much over.
On a similar note. I was reading the latest issue of KUNG FU TAI CHI MAGAZINE when I came across the dog style kung fu. I would be interested to see how the ground game offered there would do with a good standing CMA game in a MMA style match.
Would you consider say…7* and Dog Style (Gouquan was it?) to be a MMA style?
Also would a true JKDist be considered to be a highly involved form of MMA, since a ground game with good grappling and joint manipulation is highly stressed in JKD?
grappling, as I understand it, is not stressed in all jkd. I know straight blast gym emphasizes it, so do vunak’s guys. I’m not sure about the other groups, however - particularly the traditional/jun fan guys. When I trained jun fan, we did no grappling whatsoever.
no. I’ve heard alot about them though. But if I’m not mistaken, there are a few people on this forum who do train with them. are you interested in SBG?
Nope. I live in Portland OR, I met this guy who trained there in 2000. I thought he was a jerk. Plus I know he was involved in some not so healthy stuff. This made me want to stay away from there.
I have some friends who are into MMA and they say to stay away from there.
I have never been there so my incident could be totaly isolated. I have no real personal preference.
when I came across the dog style kung fu. I would be interested to see how the ground game offered there would do with a good standing CMA game in a MMA style match.