[QUOTE=Hendrik;746391]Hendrik, why not answer my question? ---------
I have answer your question and more.
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No, you still avoid ansering the question. Why do all the traditional guys clamp the knees and rotate the feet inward?
You could always think there is no such thing as Tofu and no one could intelectually tell you what Tofu is unless you have eat it.
But anyone could show me tofu – I don’t have to eat it. You claim your methods are traditional but they are not. You claim they produce results but can’t provide any evidence of anyone who uses them that has developed good fighting skills.
The fact remains that Sum Nung taught to clamp the knees and turn the feet in in the SLT. So is this not the “traditional way” of performing the SLT? Why did he do this? Answer that. Why not just throw that out of the SLT if it wasn’t “correct”? --------
ARe you from the lineage of YKS?
do you have the first hand infomation such as Rene has or Rene’s sifu has and the indepth traditional /classical Chinese Martial art training?
if not both the above what to discuss?
Why do I need to be from YKS lineage – isn’t this WCK? You - Hendrik - says that to clamp the knees and roate the feet inward is not correct, yet this is what all the traditional guys do.
If I were you, mind my own business is a better deal then always argue about something one has no idea about. Atleast that save energy.
This is a forum for views. You give your views, I’ll give mine.
If you say something produces results, I’ll ask for evidence. If you say something is traditional, I’ll ask for who did it that way.
And, whether Robert believes in chi or not does not make it real/true. ----------
Robert is practicing using Chi to heal and cure and help his patients.
So, is it a believe or it is a practice? until you got that clear, you could know what is real or not.
The practice and the explanation are two different things. Even if the practice has benefits, that doesn’t make the explanation for that practice valid. Accupuncture may work, but that doesn’t prove that qi exists. Qi is just the “best” explanation that they had at the time. We know more today. Just as the bark of some tree may be a remedy but the explanation is that it is the blessing of the wood nympth does not prove wood nympths exist.
Does Terence knows everying about WCK? Yes.
Does Terence is a Omni GOD? Yes.
Does Terence know everything about CHinese mind set? Yes.
Ha ha ha
How ridiculus and childist are the above statements isnt it?
I don’t claim to know everything --but I do recognize BS when I hear it.
And this is why the Chinese government today, in training its athletes doesn’t follow the ancient pardigm, but follows the modern one – as that is the only way to compete with today’s athletes. -------
Sure, the government switch to Communism and trying to destroy the chinese culture with Culture Revolution too.
Does that make the government right?
I think this reveals your real agenda – cultural rpeservation. The chinese government, like any government, or any athlete for that matter, will use whatever works best to develop their athletes. They won’t throw away some great way of trianing, something that would give them an edge, for the sake of destroying culture. Your view just doesn’t hold water.
Only in the TCMAs do people still follow that nonsense as training. ------
if you believe in that, tell that to your sifu Robert.
I propose you might as well as STOP claming you are Robert’s student.
For the above statement disgrace Robert, Hawkin, and GM YIp Man.
If you even have respect to any of them you wont make the above statement.
The fact that the world is round and not flat has nothing to do with respecting anyone, just as saying certain training methods aren’t very effecitve has nothing to do with respecting anyone. Robert is my sifu – that fact remains. I have told Robert that TCMAs are 90% nonsense. He knows how I feel. The mere fact that no one who follows that training can fight worth a **** proves it.
I know Robert and I know his art and I know his loyalty and respect to his sifu, Sigung, and the Traditional methods of training, Not to say Robert and me think all traditional is right ; however it is certainly not making such claim as you make.
You should not speak for Robert. Your crazy views are your own.
Thus, I would like to propose, if you no longer train in WCK, leave this forum,
I do practice WCK; you don’t. For you WCK is a belief system; for me it is a martial art. I’ll be visiting Robert in June, 2008 – come see for yourself. 
if you still think Robert is your ex sifu. Stop posting nonsense which will lead others to mis-understand Robert and create problem for Robert among others and other lineages.
I make it very clear that I speak for myself only – unlike you who keeps trying to bring in others to support your crazy views. And, Robert surely doesn’t need my help in creating problems with other lineages! 
I must said this. Stop to be a trouble creator for Robert.
I am creating no problems for Robert; all my opinions are my own. Just like my WCK is my own. Robert helped me to make my WCK functional, and for that I will always be grateful. We only make problems for others when we speak for others. You might want to consider that.
This will be the last post I would answer you. You walk your path, I walk mine. you are a MMA person comes to this forum trying to down play WCK for whatever reason which I dont care.
And, I am not going to spend one second more.
Peace and so long.
I am first and foremost a WCK practitioner, and I practice WCK as a martial art. On this forum, I talk about WCK. If you have proof that your way of training produces significant gains in fighitng skills, then provide the evidence. You can’t because it doesn’t work. If you say your way of performing the SLT is traditional, then explain why no one performs it as you do. You can’t. All you have are empty words, and no evidence to back any of them up. Your views have no substance behind them. Of course you don’t want to discuss things with me – because I ask for evidence (of which you have none) and don’t defer to your “status” (which in my view is that of just another theoretical nonfighter).