people in kungfu will train forms and stances. But then they say that they don’t fight that way at all. They say that they come up out of their deep stances and don’t use the form’s techniques.
This is why kung fu doens’t work in real life. The way they train is not used. So all the time training forms and drills is a waste.
Boxing on the otherhand trains in the same way that they fight. they Never train punches in an incorrect way, then execute them in a real fight a different way. Everything is the same. Trained punches are the same as punches during a real fight. Also boxing has a superior strategy of keeping Both your hands up and slipping punches.
Boxing doesn’t worry about the “looks” or flashy kung fu forms. it accepts what fights really look like and trains that way. the way that works. And for punching boxing is the best. But you need wrestling for after you are clinched or for shooting for takedown. And BJJ is the best on the ground as BJJ is undefeated agaisnt kungfu.
And kung fu people can’t fight without first learning BJJ, boxing, Wrestling, ect. That’s why Wrestlers and BJJ’ers are the only ones who can fight without learing other styles first. BJJer’s don’t need to learn kung fu to fight. But kung fu’s need BJJ before they can fight.
it’s really funny that a TKD black belt and boxer guy Cung Lee has been whipping up on the kung fu guys in San shou. lol.
ever seen a boxer fight outside the ring without gloves on? they break their hands half the time.
so yes, they DO train punches one way, and then when called upon to use them, they can’t (in a real-life fight) unless they execute them differently.
ever seen a bjj guy fight multiple opponents? some of his techniques aren’t real wise to use in that situation.
actually training deep kung fu stances is teh worst thing you can use for multiple opponents. Try to use that one legged crane stance when 50 sumo wrestlers are all around you, and then your going to get sumoed.
BJJ fighters practice escaping multiple opponetents by running away(the only real effective way) and training boxing to pick people off. And if you hit them in the jaw area you won’t break your hand. you only break hand by hitting their top of head with overhand crosses.
old time boxers used to pickle their hands to avoid breaks (sound familiar?). Also if you hit a heavy bag a few times a week for at least a round, without gloves it shouldn’t be a problem.
And the “grappler’s stink vs multiple opponents” hoopla; I gotta go with good ole MP. You realize what can take your balance & how to keep it real well when you actually train full out in having someone try to take it. Plus, if yah don’t train on the ground, what do you do when it goes there beyond your control? How do you move, so you can get back up, so you can end the rain of kicks to your head?
Not to mention that you got baited, hook, line, and sinker by the forum’s oldest and most prolific troll.
I’m so depressed right now I think I’m just gonna tune everything out and go back to dreaming about vegas.
Why are you takin the clown serious? He’s the most famous troll ever. He rules Your all idiots if u start a discussion of this crap. That’s what he wants. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Kristoffer Why are you takin the clown serious? He’s the most famous troll ever. He rules Your all idiots if u start a discussion of this crap. That’s what he wants. :rolleyes:
First, i’m not a troll. I’m a fighter. And i have fought people from this forum in real life. the posts offend people becuase i say what i see.
I’m hearing from the replies that you guys don’t use these stances and forms when you fight. Red5angel, you said the stanes are for “roots” and “not for fighting”. If the stances are “not for fighting” then why do you train them. That is a waste of time that could be used for training to fight.
I think that many kung fu people see a kung fu movie that fights in a “flashy forms” way, and then assume that they can use thier forms to fight just like the guys use Forms to fight in the movies.
But in real life fights look like boxing/wrestling matches.
I want to meet some of you in real life who live in the Maryland area to talk about fighitng and to do some fighting.
Ralek, sometimes the things you train aren’t directly related to the fighting techniques you use. For example, many people also weight train and do some sort of aerobic work to stay in shape. This all works to hone you down to a good fighter. The stance in kungfu is important, boxers have it toa lesser degree but their approach is different for the most part as well. It’s not something that is specific to TMA by any means much less kungfu.
