Well, Ralek one, obviously you no not live in tough neightborhood, rich and spoiled train martial art dad pays i know you do, is dress like mailman and have sex with some guy on your dads bed, i dont know you rich trian martial art for have dad pay everything for you, brazilian naked man (jistu) kick table for you i know you do
odd that volcano admin and Ralek show up at roughly the same time…
volcano. I have no formal martial arts trainign. And i live in an apartment and i’m definatly not rich. Alhtough i do have a computer and a car.
and red5angel. Odd that you show up at the same time as i do. Check my IP address if you want to verify anything.
Well, pink24angel one, is conidicence many peoples here
sholintrigger also too
so what about the training ralek, see the point to the deep stance in training yet?
red5angel.
Basically your saying that the entire linegue of kung fu forms and techniques are just exercises to the likes of “wieght lifting”.
This is the evidence to complete my thesis that kung fu is more of an aroebic dance or “ballet”
sigh
That’s it…
(throws “DON’T FEED THE TROLLS”-sign on the ground)
I’m outta here :rolleyes:
uh no, we were discussing the deep stance you sometimes see in kungfu training.
sorry i is just wnat friends 
Well again, Rolls one, obviously you no not live in tough neightborhood, tv set on with console pennis (coins, not rich) you trian streets fight 2 dad pays vido game machine know you do, is dress like post officer and have sex with stranger (guy) on your bed, i dont know you car have you cant drive, i would kick your pelvis
So are you implying that kung fu has seperate fighting techniques that are outside of the forms and stances realm?
Boxers do many things that are useless when fighting. Situps, pushups, jumping rope, wrapping their hands. Pagan wrasslers do even more worthless randomness.
The only way to be ready for a fight is to cultivate your chi, and then shoot it at people.
Bite! Tasty.
:rolleyes:
Deja fu…
Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
Deja fu…
OMG, the treated “Deja Fu”, a disciple of Lu Tze.
Boxing is much easier to master than kung fu. The way I see it (this is just my opinion) is that if the power of a practitioner of kung fu and a boxer was plotted on a graph, the boxer’s power would be a straight line going diagonaly up (the x axis being time spent training), while the kung fu guy’s line would be a curve. This means that a boxer novice would be much stronger than a kung fu novice, and let’s face it, most of us are novices. Novice being anything less than about 5-6 years of diligent training.
The reason people come out of their deep stances is because it is harder to fight in a deep stance than it is in a boxing stance. Most people do not put in the extra time to really learn to fight in true kung fu stances. If a boxer trains 2 hours a day and a kung fu guy trains 2 hours a day, the boxer will come out on top, simply because he trained in the high stances, while the kung fu guy hasn’t (or at least not as much).
Us kung fu guys need to put in the extra effort and train harder, and those that do are much MUCH more powerful than boxers.
I use some low stances when fighting, but not as much as I am afraid of getting kicked in the crotch. But then again, I am still a novice.
This is all just my opinion.
Originally posted by ComeToJesus
The reason people come out of their deep stances is because it is harder to fight in a deep stance than it is in a boxing stance. Most people do not put in the extra time to really learn to fight in true kung fu stances.
Are you associating “deep stance” with “true kung fu stance” here?
What about those of us who train kungfu with quite moderate stances - in fact, more moderate than many boxers’?
Ai-yi-yi. The more things change around here, the more they stay the same.
1 - Kungfu fighters fight
2 - Kungfu non-fighters don’t fight.
3 - Boxers and wrestlers are pretty much all fighters.
4 - When fighters fight non-fighters, fighters win.
5 - When fighters fight fighters, fighters win.
6 - Therefore, in any given kungfu guy vs. any given boxer or wrestler match, the chances are the boxer or wrestler will win, because he is more likely to be a fighter.
7 - But, if the kungfu guy is a fighter, too, things aren’t so easy to figure out.
8 - (unrelated) kungfu has lots of stances for different uses, some for fighting, others for conditioning. So what? Boxers don’t jump rope in a fight, they jump rope for conditioning. Same diff.
I as told that we should always train in the 3 heights for stances, as they provide different results and benefits.
Well when I wrote that, I was mainly thinking of my style which is Hung gar. As for the moderate stance training people, I don’t know what to say for you guys :eek:
although some people don’t like Ralek I find this to be a very important thread
the point of deep stance training.
emphasis of proper posture in key positions
leg and core strength/endurance
pain tolerance
qi cultivation, if you’re into that.
stances are not used as static postures or a “fighting position”, and only in certain circumstances are they used as deep as they are trained.
for instance, i’m not going to root down in a thigh parallel horse stance in front of you and try to fight you like that. that’s impractical for both body mechanics and endurance. but if given a chance for inner thigh lifting (firemans carry throw), you bet your sweet a ss i’m going thigh parallel and slamming my arm or shoulder into your crotch and lifting you with all of my leg strength.