Check this guy out, I was pretty impressed. The Kung Fu guy has real good stand up. The skinny Mexican guy is my old coach, Miguel Torres.
round 1
round 2
round 3
I wish, for Torres’ sake, there were more opportunities for smaller fighters on the big stage.
Charles Wilson (the kung fu guy) has a 4-5 pro mma record, 8-0 as an amateur. Or so sayeth FCFighter.com, anyway. He would’ve done himself a favor to use the side kick more and the crescent/axe kick less, but it was a great performance against a guy who’s 31-1.
Miguel Torres is supposed to be the shiznit. I have heard a lot of good things about him.
I’ve watch mma stuff for awhile now.
Mostly main stream fights.
Anyway, I can’t figure out why the don’t let kung fu of any type in the ring more often. i mean hell mma is about as close as you can get to a street fight with a reff lol.
By mma i mean UFC, Pride and other main stages.
Wilson did extremely well against Torres. You really have to see some of Miguel’s earlier fights to realize how good Wilson is.
I’m kinda suprised this hasn’t generated more discussion. 8 out of ten threads here are CMA vs. MMA, and here’s a video fo two guys at the top of their game showing just that.
shrug
I’m waiting for someone to claim it isn’t kung fu that helped him last as long as he did. Like Shaolin friggin’ chuan fa isn’t about as kung fu as it gets. Though really, if people can tout Jason DeLucia as being a “kung fu expert” then I don’t see why they would have any problem with calling this guy a kung fu practitioner.
At any rate, it’s obvious that he cross-trained in grappling, which is commendable. Everyone who plans on fighting should, and though he lost, he had a nice sprawl. It just goes to show that the only way to “anti-grapple” is to train in grapplng. I loved how Torres went down and Wilson took the sensible route and didn’t fall on his opponent… at least till he got taken down 
Nice stuff
On a side note, that “slightly tilted to the side stance” is awfully similar to how my Sifu sparred (sniff I miss kung fu 
) except he tended to keep his guard a bit higher and closer to the side of his face.
I’m kinda suprised this hasn’t generated more discussion. 8 out of ten threads here are CMA vs. MMA, and here’s a video fo two guys at the top of their game showing just that
Get it moved to the main forum and I bet dollars to donuts you will see more response. I think some will refrain from here because the title.
[QUOTE=Etrikkin;760640]
Anyway, I can’t figure out why the don’t let kung fu of any type in the ring more often. [/QUOTE]
You can’t let people in if they don’t ask in. There’s been a dearth of CMA competitors in MMA for the last thirteen years, a trend which is now reversing itself.
good fight
Sifu Wilson is in my kung fu family, Tsai’s Shaolin Chuan Fa of Chicago. I would love to see him fight! Thanks for posting this. Best wishes to him in his future matches!
I got my start at Tsai Fu as well. It’s good to see one of the family doing so well!!
my old cma teacher was in tsai’s lineage.
[QUOTE=BlueTravesty;760697]I’m waiting for someone to claim it isn’t kung fu that helped him last as long as he did. Like Shaolin friggin’ chuan fa isn’t about as kung fu as it gets. Though really, if people can tout Jason DeLucia as being a “kung fu expert” then I don’t see why they would have any problem with calling this guy a kung fu practitioner.[/quote]
nobody would say kung fu didn’t help him. What we talk about is when you take a guy like cung le, who trained tkd and has wrestled his entire life, in addition to training cma and you guys try to say he is a pure cma guy - he is not. doesn’t mean he didn’t use his kung fu at all, but tkd + wrestling + kung fu doesn’t = pure kung fu.
[QUOTE=Etrikkin;760640]I’ve watch mma stuff for awhile now.
Mostly main stream fights.
Anyway, I can’t figure out why the don’t let kung fu of any type in the ring more often. i mean hell mma is about as close as you can get to a street fight with a reff lol.
By mma i mean UFC, Pride and other main stages.[/QUOTE]
They don’t let kung fu in the ring because most Kung fu guys are too deadly to compete in mma. My opinion, anyway.
Troll, a mod troll at that. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=SevenStar;760850]nobody would say kung fu didn’t help him. What we talk about is when you take a guy like cung le, who trained tkd and has wrestled his entire life, in addition to training cma and you guys try to say he is a pure cma guy - he is not. doesn’t mean he didn’t use his kung fu at all, but tkd + wrestling + kung fu doesn’t = pure kung fu.[/QUOTE]
Is there an official resume? Or are you just relegating his cma to the back of the bus?
http://www.cungle.com/sv/html/website/WebSite_6/m_main.jsp?&page=biography.html&id=6
you will notice his interests are as follows
movies, MMA, BJJ, Sanshou…i think he put it to the back of the bus
although i would say its because he has been a sanshou champ for so long… he needs something new.
thats MMA, and well why not use BJJ since its proven effectivness is already present.
cung le is my personal favorit sport fighter, i enjoyed watching his 2 mma fights and all his sanshou stuff.
cant wait to see him go for a 3rd MMA match up. hopefully something heavy
Wilson did real well.
anyone know where he crosstrained for the ground? or what system?
[QUOTE=SifuAbel;760921]Is there an official resume? Or are you just relegating his cma to the back of the bus?[/QUOTE]
who cares about his resume? is he PURE kung fu? even you aren’t that anal. He’s definitely a cma guy, but he’s not a pure cma like you guys seem to claim if he’s trained arts other than cma.