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Sorry, but this “easy way out” mentality is not correct. I don’t know of any CMA striking style that doesn’t have blunt hits. I.E. closed hand punching, back of wrist strikes etc. If you’ve never been hit in sparrring, guess what, you will go fetal on the first blow.
And what “Kung Fu” do yo study? This is a very specific question. We don’t just take “kung fu” as a style.
There must be a Costco somewhere selling “dead horses to beat” at a discount.
It seems we never get to the end with this.
REAL REASON we don’t see much CMA people in MMA is simple. CMA people are not driven to those venues by their teachers. Period.
Early UFC was a BJJ promotional video. We don’t hear about those few who did go in and do well, Joe Sutton, Onasis etc. But we never hear the end of how a few not so good CMAers did badly.
There’s no such thing as a sucker punch in the ring. Everyone knows exactly what they are doing in square circle. 
No, Bo Hou Chuan is superiour, I won all my fight, but they were against no name local boys.
No, I don’t think a strike with stop someone, that is why I don’t rely on playing tag with my fist. And yes, I train in a controlled environment, but I don’t train for a controlled environment.
You are correct you must train with strikes, but I don’t waste my time training to rely on them.
Ring fighting has evolved into a SPORT. Yes, boxers are good at hitting too. Ring fighters are great at ring fighting. But, kickboxing + wrestling does not equal fighting for your survival. I understand that ring fights are as close to real fighting as you can get in a sane world, that is why I tried it. I did it enough to realize I would have to alter my fighting style to get it to comply to sportsmanlike ring fighting.
[QUOTE=bo_hou_chuan]No, Bo Hou Chuan is superiour, I won all my fight, but they were against no name local boys.
No, I don’t think a strike with stop someone, that is why I don’t rely on playing tag with my fist. And yes, I train in a controlled environment, but I don’t train for a controlled environment.
where are you from? where these fight local events?
theres no such thing as training for a uncontrolled environment.. when its a fight anything and everything happens
I think it’s because a skilled martial artist in cma or jma would never join ufc
because one rule is that you don’t fight unless you have to, if you do but don’t have to, then you shouldn’t use the skills taught to you for life or death
situations. also, the fights would be much more dangerous, and quick.
it’s hard to sell tickets to an event that will be done in minutes.
training in your cushiony kwoon with cooperative opponents does not equal fighting for survival.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! the biggest BS i ever heard, are you an instructor?
explain kung fu tournaments?
btw my hands are registered as lethal weapons!!!
sifuabel,
horray! at least someone remembers my friend and brother joel sutton! he beat the crap out of both his opponents using what he leaened in (yes call it) kung fu and represented our system and teacher.
but of course no one will give kung fu credit for this. But we must remember the UFC was brain stormed and invented by the gracies for a BJJ competition. not MMA abnd surley not other styles.
try entering a MM Artist in a Tuei Sao competition and see how they do. will they compare with the Taji guys?
greensage,
please man I am trying to defend my skilled kung fu brothers out there. we really dont need ridiculous posts like this one and then say… hey I do kungfu!!!
do you say judo katana and numchucks too? oh brother!
Seven,
I always dig what you say man, but you need to get over the throat thing. Anyways, at least it’s not the whole upper torso now. Doesn’t matter, throat (entire neck also including occiptical region, temples, as well as…) strikes still aren’t allowed, Jeez, can’t even drop an elbow on the neck from mount. So, flying over dead horses…However, I would like to see these added. Eye gouging from mount, SWEET! I always thought it was weird that you can rear that naked choke, but can’t bite at the same time, what’s up with that? Talk about cauliflower ears that would be. Right…
ha
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WTF?!?!?!?! :eek:
the term MMA had not yet been coined back then, so No, it wasn’t designed for them.
try entering a MM Artist in a Tuei Sao competition and see how they do. will they compare with the Taji guys?
perhaps - if they trained for it.
seven
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perhaps but I would wager the taiji guys would dominate the circle. however that would not discredit the MMA.
my game my rules will always come out on top.
Thanks EarthDragon I’ll check them out.
Thanks to all who posted here, it’s been interesting hearing the differing points of view on what is clearly a sensitive issue.
I saw this article in Grappling magazine about Pat Miletech’s training methods, and how he trains fighters willing to learn with him. What I read was amazing. Guys came from all over the world to the middle of no where, and begged to train with him. It said most quit after the first day. And for the few that remained they trained every day of the week for 6 to 7 hours a day, gave up their lives (some very successful ones at that), and took up odd jobs around town like being janitors, bartenders, and street cleaners to train with Miletech… These guys give up their lives to train, and they train to fight. They don’t train to become better people, or to learn how to mimic something they saw in a Bruce Lee movie. A lot of those guys (in the article) train because they have nothing to go back to at home. You can’t beat people like that. I know its a generalization, but thats how it is. Moreover, American society is a Mcdonald’s society. We want all of what we see, and we want it fast. Most people generally do not have to emotional make-up to learn Kung Fu for 20 or 30 years, but we all want to be the best at the same time. Grappling is something that is very effective, and can be made to be effective learned in a short amount of time. Grappling arts have come back to stay.
So anyway, if you take kung fu, you have stand up skill, you throw, you know joint locks, and you can fight on the ground. There should be no excuse for a kung fu man to be inferior in technique to a grappler. You possess the same skill. If you think you don’t you just need to learn to use them. And you do that by sparring… It comes down to who is more hungry.
Two guys I train with spent a weekend training at his camp - they said it was intense.
I just looked at the wutanbrunswik link.
Everyone looks chinese, except for the full contact fighters who are all white.
What’s with that?
Who were these local boys, and what promotion did you fight in?
Definitely, if you train it right.
you throw,
In some styles, yah.
and you can fight on the ground.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
lol sh!t…i thought sumone resurrected an old thread.