What sparked this “WAKE UP” was that grappling stepped up it’s game. Grappling has always been there… it never went stagnant like most striking arts. Most striking arts went into a vacuum and got further and further away from physical contact. Common sense tells you a person that uses his techniques on a daily basis while training, is going to be more effective than a person that trains forms without ever testing his techniques!
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out…[/QUOTE]
Where is this giant clan of people that practice forms without ever testing their techniques?
I hear about them all of the time.
We need to find them and let them know what to do before it’s too late.
They probably live very close to the people that imagine only Jiujitsu uses grappling techniques:rolleyes:
What sparked this “WAKE UP” was that grappling stepped up it’s game. Grappling has always been there… it never went stagnant like most striking arts. Most striking arts went into a vacuum and got further and further away from physical contact. Common sense tells you a person that uses his techniques on a daily basis while training, is going to be more effective than a person that trains forms without ever testing his techniques!
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out…[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024750]The funny this is that Kimbo would destroy him in less than a minute.
Gotta love the fantasy non-fighters who attempt to give real fighters lessons in fighting.[/QUOTE]
That’s probably what everyone thought about the guy who knocked Kimbo out and ended his transitition from internet streetfighting legend to MMA super star, lol.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024883]Boxing and Muay Thai never “went stagnant”.[/QUOTE]
Boxing disappeared off the face of the planet for a good part of human history as you probably already know. When it returned, it was co-opted into a contest with financial implications, which ironically kept it “real”
For all the Muay Thai in the world, influenced by boxing in structure and emphasis, you have the wack jobs in the jungle doing the “deadly” with their fake swords and flying head butts, and ancient Thai martial arts “secrets”… ever saw that Fight Quest episode, where Yodsenklai was laughing his nuts off at the stuff the muay baran guys were doing?
[QUOTE=Faruq;1024885]That’s probably what everyone thought about the guy who knocked Kimbo out and ended his transitition from internet streetfighting legend to MMA super star, lol.[/QUOTE]
No, pretty much everyone who does MMA knew that Kimbo was going to get smoked by people who had more experience in fighting MMA.
Same as Kimbo more than likely has more full contact fighting experience than MJW.
No, pretty much everyone who does MMA knew that Kimbo was going to get smoked by people who had more experience in fighting MMA.
Same as Kimbo more than likely has more full contact fighting experience than MJW.
i agree everyone kinda knew that kimbo was probably not going to make it even in the lower levels of mma.
one thing i liked about kimbo was the fact he never professed to be something he’s not, unlike a bunch of people on here. When i watched interviews with him he was always humble and stated in big lettering “I’m just along for the ride.” More of an honest answer than most give.
Kimbo is actually a nice guy who has TRIED to learn new skills. He was put on the headliner by a company trying to cash in on his name and a lot of people hate him for that but the fact remains the man himself never said he was all that…
You also can’t blame him, he was offered a crap load of cash to do what he wanted to do anyway…
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024883]Boxing and Muay Thai never “went stagnant”.[/QUOTE]
Thus the MOST in my post…
I was speaking of TJMA and TCMA becoming stagnant. When I started karate some 30 plus yrs ago sparring and full contact was the norm. The same with CMA about 25-30 yrs ago… we sparred and fought as I moved to different schools over the yrs it became very rare if ever you sparred much less fought.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1024901]Kimbo is actually a nice guy who has TRIED to learn new skills. He was put on the headliner by a company trying to cash in on his name and a lot of people hate him for that but the fact remains the man himself never said he was all that…
You also can’t blame him, he was offered a crap load of cash to do what he wanted to do anyway…[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with what he did. At his age, he probably didn’t have the time to put in to develop the skills it takes to get to the top of the MMA game.
Doesn’t change the fact that someone with relatively little MMA skills and experience is going to get smoked by guys with significantly more skills and experience.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024907]Nothing wrong with what he did. At his age, he probably didn’t have the time to put in to develop the skills it takes to get to the top of the MMA game.
Doesn’t change the fact that someone with relatively little MMA skills and experience is going to get smoked by guys with significantly more skills and experience.[/QUOTE]
I don’t know Kimbo personally although I do know his brother. A lot was thrown at him like previously said in this post. What most people fail to understand his how fast this all came about… He was expected to go from pure stand up street fighter to full MMA in no time. He was a stand up fighter… It was very obvious that he had no ground game…
He did try to pick up a ground game but he was expected to pick up all this stuff in a relatively short period of time. He’s not a young guy and he was facing younger guys who have at least some ground experience. His first few fights were planned against the people he fought for a reason… They were strikers and gave him a chance. It was Inevitable that as he moved on he was going to be matched against more experienced MMA people with a more balanced game and be taken down.
Dana White did the same thing he gave Elite and Kimbo so much flack over and cashed in on his fame! No one ever expected Kimbo to go anywhere in the MMA world except for a few clueless nut huggers!
