I take it they were doing a movie together ?
wait, did someone just say he got a Kyokushinkai BB at 12 :eek:
I just saw the video and Mike has a point about not telegraphing the jab or any punch, but the fact that SOME boxers do doesn’t mean they are taught to do that.
We all get little ‘quirks" when we fight, some boxers do move their shoulder a lot, Kimbo is like that.
Now, in boxing the jab is sometimes telegraphed on purpose as a set up, so it’s not always a bad thing,it’s only bad when you do it and dont’ know that you are doing it.
The shoulder movement can also add reach and a bit more Bam to the strike.
His website says he was the US Open N.American JKA, knockdown freestyle champion.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1024815]His website says he was the US Open N.American JKA, knockdown freestyle champion.[/QUOTE]
yet oddly it doesn’t state a year or division…just sayin’…
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1024811]12?
Wow, that is something and no, I doubt he did that ( multi-man).
There used to be an “unwritten” rule in kyokushin that you don’t get a BB if you are under 18, 16 for those that are “physically mature”.
I wonder when that changed?[/QUOTE]
Or, maybe, “gasp”, his website is making stuff up.
was about to mention, anyone associated with Hollywood, take whatever they say with GREAT skepticism (some people in Hollywood are downright insane 
LOL)
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024819]Or, maybe, “gasp”, his website is making stuff up.[/QUOTE]
Well, it said it was under Shigeru Oyama and I know that there were some issues with how he promoted people ( americans) in Kyokushin.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1024824]Well, it said it was under Shigeru Oyama and I know that there were some issues with how he promoted people ( americans) in Kyokushin.[/QUOTE]
you are feeling diplomatic this morning
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1024825]you are feeling diplomatic this morning ;)[/QUOTE]
LMAO !
Well, I don’t wanna create a situation that gets this thread locked too, LOL !
Besides, I think that everyone in the MA world knows the horrid politics of Kyokushin.
It was a mess for a long time, nut I never bothered getting involved with it that much.
Heck, I don’t even know if my Nidan is even worth the paper it is written on anymore, not that it matters.
In the 80’s we used to wait downstairs from that school and looked for sparring partners, they were the only gym in NYC at the time that you could find guys willing to spar with leg kicks and knees …
Over the years, well, you know…
I really wouldn’t put much stock in actors making claims to multiple black belts etc.
When exactly would they have the time to learn to act? lol
7 black belts indeed. that’s a hell of an achievement! 
edit…and I say this because I hold two + 1 brown and it took me 15 years to get those and it was hard work.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1024827]LMAO !
Well, I don’t wanna create a situation that gets this thread locked too, LOL !
Besides, I think that everyone in the MA world knows the horrid politics of Kyokushin.
It was a mess for a long time, nut I never bothered getting involved with it that much.
Heck, I don’t even know if my Nidan is even worth the paper it is written on anymore, not that it matters.[/QUOTE]
Politics have been the downfall of many martial arts systems. When money and recognition take the place of fighting and training, and people are promoted to high ranks simply for paying a fee and making someone rich, the end is near. Nothing is more sad than seeing an overweight, uncoordinated black belt sh**it up a system, especially when a six month practioner of a real fighting system would hand them their ass!
BTW, you do realize that everything he was demonstrating there were simply parlor tricks, right? And you realize that the second set of “power jabs” were not even jabs, right? And that the fact that they were not jabs were all part of the parlor trick setup, right?
Not to mention that the fact that he was able to so easily “hit” Kimbo’s hand is one of the very reasons that type of “jab” isn’t very effective in the first place.
You know, some people see the MMA thing as some apocolyptic event in the history of martial arts
I tend to see martial arts history as cyclic… every tradition/system seems to get bogged down in crap until some event/period wakes everybody the F up and then we start all over again…
[QUOTE=IronFist;1024744]Don’t Telegraph:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcWMeT1Pt7A
Discuss.[/QUOTE]
Nice vid thanks for posting.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024833]BTW, you do realize that everything he was demonstrating there were simply parlor tricks, right? And you realize that the second set of “power jabs” were not even jabs, right? And that the fact that they were not jabs were all part of the parlor trick setup, right?
Not to mention that the fact that he was able to so easily “hit” Kimbo’s hand is one of the very reasons that type of “jab” isn’t very effective in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Well, I’ve hit and been hit more with slow shots and unorthodox ones than I have with the real stuff.
Of course the real stuff hurts more.
thats why i took it as a sucker punch, from when he was talking all about using that for the one sneaky hit.
who knows how he got all those black belts…maybe he got them on martial arts mart
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1024834]You know, some people see the MMA thing as some apocolyptic event in the history of martial arts
I tend to see martial arts history as cyclic… every tradition/system seems to get bogged down in crap until some event/period wakes everybody the F up and then we start all over again…[/QUOTE]
I’ve said this for years!
What sparked this “WAKE UP” was that grappling stepped up it’s game. Grappling has always been there… it never went stagnant like most striking arts. Most striking arts went into a vacuum and got further and further away from physical contact. Common sense tells you a person that uses his techniques on a daily basis while training, is going to be more effective than a person that trains forms without ever testing his techniques!
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out…
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out…
but still you have idiots that will never let go of it and will swear without doubt what they do is absolute and never venture out of there protective bubble (tma) to see if what they have works. grappling did set it up but it has even evolved past that now.