Don’t Telegraph:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcWMeT1Pt7A
Discuss.
The funny this is that Kimbo would destroy him in less than a minute.
Gotta love the fantasy non-fighters who attempt to give real fighters lessons in fighting.
Would have been better if he had said to Kimbo “Ha-ha! I threw that **** before I walked in the room!”
Sorry couldn’t resist.
Good video, I will try that tomorrow night if we do some boxing.
As for Knifefighter’s comments, supposed he has a black belt in Kyokushin Karate, which last I checked, wasn’t exactly a “fantasy non-fighters” style of Karate.
i dont know about all that…yes michael jai white makes movies…but he ****ing trains like a beast… he fights like one too…only talk what you know…not what you think you know.
There’s plenty of evidence of Kimbo having plenty of full-contact fights.
I dont’ think there is any evidence of Michael Jai White having done so.
BTW, having a BB in Kyokushin Karate doesn’t necessarily mean someone actually has experience in full-contact fighting.
[QUOTE=doug maverick;1024752]i dont know about all that…yes michael jai white makes movies…but he ****ing trains like a beast… he fights like one too…only talk what you know…not what you think you know.[/QUOTE]
Really? Well maybe you could point to some evidence for his fighting ability.
oh **** this is just a thread to discuss the video not a thread to talk **** about someone (who isnt even present mind you) like youre some some 14 year old drooling bullshido mongoloid :rolleyes:
He’s not on Sherdog. What a wimp…
This from wiki so take it for what it is.
‘He is an accomplished martial artist, holding seven legitimate black belts in Shotokan, Tae Kwon Do, Kobudo, Goju Ryu, Tang Soo Do, Wushu and Kyokushin,[4][5] with a specific focus in Kyokushin (although his style incorporates aspects of many different martial arts forms).[6] White started martial arts training at the age of seven.’
i dont think he has a fight record. but im sure hes done tons of sparring in his training, unless thats all bs, so while he may or may not have any real fight experience, im sure he has a few things he can share. he wasnt wrong in the vid so it is what it is.
Not just 1 but 7 Black Belts. His website says he trained with Bill Wallace and Benny Urquidez.
http://www.michaeljaiwhite.com/
Of course without a fight video it’s all meaningless.
[QUOTE=Lucas;1024763]This from wiki so take it for what it is.
‘He is an accomplished martial artist, holding seven legitimate black belts in Shotokan, Tae Kwon Do, Kobudo, Goju Ryu, Tang Soo Do, Wushu and Kyokushin,[4][5] with a specific focus in Kyokushin (although his style incorporates aspects of many different martial arts forms).[6] White started martial arts training at the age of seven.’
i dont think he has a fight record. but im sure hes done tons of sparring in his training, unless thats all bs, so while he may or may not have any real fight experience, im sure he has a few things he can share. he wasnt wrong in the vid so it is what it is.[/QUOTE]
Actually, he was wrong in the video. He was trying to say that what boxers do is wrong. There’s a reason boxers (and MT fighters, and MMA fighters) don’t fight the way he was suggesting. People who have much full contact fight experience generally know that there are specific reasons for that.
i seem to have taken it differently. i saw it from the view of a sucker punch. not a format to fight from.
[QUOTE=Yao Sing;1024765]Not just 1 but 7 Black Belts. His website says he trained with Bill Wallace and Benny Urquidez.
http://www.michaeljaiwhite.com/
Of course without a fight video it’s all meaningless.[/QUOTE]
lol his website is bad ass you have to admit.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024766]Actually, he was wrong in the video. He was trying to say that what boxers do is wrong. There’s a reason boxers (and MT fighters, and MMA fighters) don’t fight the way he was suggesting. People who have much full contact fight experience generally know that there are specific reasons for that.[/QUOTE]
What I took from It, is what he said… try not to telegraph your punches! My sifu stresses the same point. If you have nothing to read… it’s a lot harder for the other person to avoid being hit. In my experience most people do one of two things when striking… they relax sinking the shoulder or tense up slightly raising the shoulder… both give you reads. My sifu does neither… nor does his expression or eyes give away his intent. He trains us by having us shadow box in front of a mirror all the while working on not giving any reads. We then also do partner drills throwing strikes at each other trying not to give the other any reads.
I don’t see a problem with that… maybe he worded it wrong saying they do it wrong but, I see nothing wrong with the advice.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024766]Actually, he was wrong in the video. He was trying to say that what boxers do is wrong. There’s a reason boxers (and MT fighters, and MMA fighters) don’t fight the way he was suggesting. People who have much full contact fight experience generally know that there are specific reasons for that.[/QUOTE]
continue…what are the reasons?
Please give examples.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024756]There’s plenty of evidence of Kimbo having plenty of full-contact fights.
I dont’ think there is any evidence of Michael Jai White having done so.
BTW, having a BB in Kyokushin Karate doesn’t necessarily mean someone actually has experience in full-contact fighting.[/QUOTE]
Neither does having experience in boxing or Muay Thai for that matter. But when a person says they train in either of those arts, they are given instant status by most. That being said, there are several people who train in boxing and Muay Thai who never fight full contact and some who probably never spar. Most Kyokushin schools do not give away black belts, if MJW has a black belt in Kyokushin, I’m pretty sure he’s banged hard before. That earns him the right to have an opinion, at the very least.
One of the standard for a BB in kyokushin is a multi-man full contact kumite match ( face punching being optional).
Depending on the size of the school it can range from 10 man to 30 man.
1-2 minute rounds ( typically 1 min) and usually you get the lower belts at the end so they can beat you into a pulp for all those times you did that to them.
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1024788]Neither does having experience in boxing or Muay Thai for that matter. But when a person says they train in either of those arts, they are given instant status by most. That being said, there are several people who train in boxing and Muay Thai who never fight full contact and some who probably never spar. Most Kyokushin schools do not give away black belts, if MJW has a black belt in Kyokushin, I’m pretty sure he’s banged hard before. That earns him the right to have an opinion, at the very least.[/QUOTE]
Training in boxing or MT doesn’t necessarily mean someone has fought. My point was there is plenty of hard evidence that Kimbo has fought full contact and none for MJW.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1024790]One of the standard for a BB in kyokushin is a multi-man full contact kumite match ( face punching being optional).
Depending on the size of the school it can range from 10 man to 30 man.
1-2 minute rounds ( typically 1 min) and usually you get the lower belts at the end so they can beat you into a pulp for all those times you did that to them.[/QUOTE]
He got his BB at age 12. Somehow I doubt he got beaten to a pulp in his BB test.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1024809]He got his BB at age 12. Somehow I doubt he got beaten to a pulp in his BB test.[/QUOTE]
12?
Wow, that is something and no, I doubt he did that ( multi-man).
There used to be an “unwritten” rule in kyokushin that you don’t get a BB if you are under 18, 16 for those that are “physically mature”.
I wonder when that changed?