[QUOTE=Frost;1098161]this post and henriks in general show whats wrong with a lot of TCMA,
alot of talk about power generation and showing it in isolation and compliant partner drills…then it all goes to pot when the you know what hits the fan,
of course if someone could show the same body methods in action in a real fight that might change things,
but what the chen guys did is nothing like the power generation used my the MMA guys[/QUOTE]
You brought up a common point of view share by many, and the following is my view.
1,
In my opinion,
The thread is focus on one thing and you expect it to be something else.
2,
There are many ways to generate power provided one uses the key body mechanics.
In term of law of physics and biomachanics.
The Chen method has its pro and con the MMA has its pro can con that is a reality.
Bring in a tiger, Bring in an OX, Bring in a leapad… all can generate power and there is no standard but subject to the law of physics and biology mechanics.
Also, real fighting is like flowing water, one could never step in the same flowing water twice. So, chasing trying to step into the same flowing water again and again is a fantasy. and we are not talking fighting here.
This thread is about satisfying law of physics, biology mechanics, and neuron network. stuck at WCK, MMA, Chen Taiji are all meaningless because those are just name or label of a certain way to do things.
As for
showing it in isolation and compliant partner drills.
as my analogy above we talk CAR here instead of Car racing.
One needs to clarify with the law of Physics and Biomechanics before getting to multi-dependency situation.
Six directional force vectors which is an instantaneous loop closing component with trajectory is present here and explained. Thus, it is not an Open Loop isolation case.
3, The pro and Con compare with MMA and the Chen, in my opinion, is as the following.
A, MMA is based solidly on the body strength of an individual. It is has a great dependency on the person’s health, age, and body condition. it is mostly Raw power as some called it.
The hit target is narrow thus if missed the target recovery is clumpsy.
IE: this is the luxury for the strong and young.
B, Chen taiji is based on some Raw power and lots of elegant manipulation of law of physics and biomechanics. it is much less dependent to person’s health, age, and body condition.
The hit target of this power generation is large, thus, even it missed the momentum still could carry to next continous strike per contact point.
IE: an old person with heart problem can use this type of power to defense him/herself effectively and safely.
C, non isolation, resistance, non compliant …
the dominont factor or the first order response of a close loop system, must be solve in the level of physics and biomechanics before any testing or
rely on RAW power to brute force it out as the only way.
Similar to a car design where one knows the limitation before put in to test drive. at the time of test drive one is just testing the limit of prediction instead of testing what can it do.
One design the car with a clear spec and then test it. testing without knowning the design doesnt make the car to perform better.
Thus,
The following critical keys needs to be address on the core of the power generation; such as a Car’s technical spec is clear at design state which is much earlier then test drive.
Six directional force vectors close loop contact point and trajectory, source of power generation, power transportation needs to be clear and by design instead of as Many TCMA people who take chances un prepare or MMA using RAW power.
Sorry that I use some control system engineering term. I feel it is improtant to introduce them here because power generation is by design and it needs to be clearly identify.
