Hey guys: Does anyone knows where could I get good information online on how to develop the iron palm? Thanks
Most of the important links don;t work in that page, sorry. Anyone else?
That’s funny, I just went there now and they all worked.
Try this one:
[QUOTE=r4cy;860944]Hey guys: Does anyone knows where could I get good information online on how to develop the iron palm? Thanks[/QUOTE]
I don’t think there is any “good information” since it is a fantasy.
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;860968]I don’t think there is any “good information” since it is a fantasy.[/QUOTE]
You lack chi.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;860970]You lack chi.:D[/QUOTE]
Yes, I’m taking a chi supplement, but it’s making my palms iron.
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;860971]Yes, I’m taking a chi supplement, but it’s making my palms hairy.[/QUOTE]
Fixed that for you.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;860973]Fixed that for you.;)[/QUOTE]
LOL! So what’s wrong with sex with someone you love?
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;860975]LOL! So what’s wrong with sex with someone you love? ;)[/QUOTE]
…All we need is love…
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;860968]I don’t think there is any “good information” since it is a fantasy.[/QUOTE]
That is it, keep on making making idiotic and irresponsible comments to people who are genuinely interested in traditional training which is an area of training which you have absolutely no knowledge of.
[QUOTE=r4cy;860944]Hey guys: Does anyone knows where could I get good information online on how to develop the iron palm? Thanks[/QUOTE]
It is best to find a sifu(who is not a glorified kickboxer, but a genuine kung fu practitioner), who will guide you through the various stages of training. I personally don’t know of any websites.
Good luck!
It’s okay. I guess there isn’t a lot of info anyway. I’ll do my best. Thanks for your response.
There are a few legit IP guys here, like Dale and Sifu Miller, have you tried them?
[QUOTE=r4cy;861321]It’s okay. I guess there isn’t a lot of info anyway. I’ll do my best. Thanks for your response.[/QUOTE] Regardless of what people say. I’ve seen people who didn’t have much striking power break coconuts with their palms after IP training. Is it a trick? The best way to find is to buy a coconut and try it.
Check your PM.
Or otherwise save your money and instead of buying a coconut come up and try to break one of the Kung Fu Magazine Forum’s "modernists’ " thick skulls.
However, I must warn you that in comparison, breaking a coconut is a piece of cake and that is because some of our modernists(who hate traditional kung fu) are experts in Iron Skull training, which makes their heads thicker than the average coconut tree.
Its all about jing, and really learning and understanding it for what it is, while hitting the bags…
Just like water and ice they may be two different formats of ideals but of the same manifestation (H2O)… There are a lot of categories dealing with “jing” that one can mention and are all different ideals when brought forth mentally but the results are the same when executed in application (“jing lik sao”)…
“Jing” is a strong concept and ideal of the twelve-muscle/tendon channels…
Physiologically, they do not enter into the internal organs but coordinate the movement of the bone and limbs… The Twelve-Muscle/Tendon Channels are connected to the inner fascia of the body’s muscles, tendons, and ligaments as well as others connective tissues…
They are all affiliated with the channels and collaterals (Luo) systems on the exterior of the body, and serve as a mediator between any energetic reactions (trauma stress, etc) that vibrate from the body’s exterior surface to the deep internal organs…
Hitting the bags, as how to throw a strike: first lets start with the height of the table. The table should be at dan tian level, only after you are in your stance (wide stance). So you are standing directly over the bags, while dropping the hands in a very relax but heavy hand kind of way.
You are focusing on Jing & Shen. The throw generates clean through the bag its’ self. Once you get to a cretin level of iron palm the top of your iron palm table will seem moist & wet, where the chi has generated through the bags.
With the three levels of penetration collarbone, solar plexus and bellybutton, collarbone: first softness, solar plexus: second soft but yet with heavy hand ness, bellybutton: third with shen & jing explosiveness with chi energized muscle.
You will see every thing that you need too see by just hitting the bags correctly and through repetition.
Must be three kinds of bags, start of with sand for three months, then dry peas or beans, the kind that you buy in a plastic bag, then hit the bags until the peas or beans are all crushed or for just three months. The last bags fill them up with daisy BBs, hit for three months then you will be complete.
Ali Rahim.
[QUOTE=HardWork8;861301]That is it, keep on making making idiotic and irresponsible comments to people who are genuinely interested in traditional training which is an area of training which you have absolutely no knowledge of.[/QUOTE]
The only idiotic and irresponsible comments are from people who believe in this sort of traditional fantasy-foo. If you believe that you or someone has the iron palm or that your iron palm training has had any benefit, step into the ring with a good fighter and see. Prove it, not with stories or legends or philosophy, but with performance. Or, point to someone that has proved it. Funny how no one has ever been able to produce that – sort of like bigfoot, all kinds of stories, just no real, solid evidence.
These things are silly, demo tricks, like breaking boards. And all they do is distract people from what is important in terms of developing martial skill.
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;861476]The only idiotic and irresponsible comments are from people who believe in this sort of traditional fantasy-foo. If you believe that you or someone has the iron palm or that your iron palm training has had any benefit, step into the ring with a good fighter and see. Prove it, not with stories or legends or philosophy, but with performance. Or, point to someone that has proved it. Funny how no one has ever been able to produce that – sort of like bigfoot, all kinds of stories, just no real, solid evidence.
These things are silly, demo tricks, like breaking boards. And all they do is distract people from what is important in terms of developing martial skill.[/QUOTE]
You are way off on this one T, sorry.
I have done IP for the last couple of years, the facts behind it are verifiable, I have even take X-rays to compare before and after the IP training.
Now, one must discount what IP isn’t, namely a "magic bullet, and count it for what it is, an advanced form of hand conditioning.
As for the practical application of it, the guys I spar with commented on it, its easily “seen” and “felt” by touching my hand.
Now, I before I retired from competition I had an OK record as it was and I have done impact tests that have shown that even before IP I had an above average strike, that said, I have never struck harder AND more relaxed that I do now.
The gyms I go to: Kombat arts, Champion ship boxing and a couple of others, al have good caliber fighters.
Now, I realize this is just Anecdotal heresay from my part, but if you are ever in the area, I would love to show you what IP can do, or anyone else for that matter, and this is a FRIENDLY offer, no ego whatsoever.
Fair enough?
I used to practice Iron Palm when I was in Florida. Sold my bags to a friend before leaving because I had to leave in a hurry. Haven’t yet gotten another set.
Though the name of the training suggests otherwise, I too think of it simply as hand conditioning. A slower, safe, methodological way of preparing and conditioning the hand for striking.
Sort of the same way thai fighters now condition their shins for kicking. They kick only bags and pads over and over and over progressively kicking more dense parts of the bags as time passes…never anything hard (like another shin bone)
until they actually start having fights.
Same thing when karate stylists hit the makiwara boards, and so forth. Just a bit more progressive with IP I think.
Nothing magical about the training process unless someone believes it will make them be able to blow out the back of someone with chi energy. Can someone say “Ricky O??!”