You all showed up to fight or watch. So one side decides, this is a bad spot to do this. Lets go down the road. Less eyes on us. SMART actually. Obviously this was not a lets see who wins in a duel to the death. It was a ****ing match, period. My dogs better than your dog. Period. Such is life. Main cause.
But nope, I guess it was you are not deciding the battle ground. Concrete baby ! WTF ? Yet when it went to concrete was anyone trying to kill ,break or maim anyone else ? Nope, it was control and trying to knock out. Like most fights in real life. It is just proving who has bigger nuts to create a pecking order.
That said, Mr. Kung Fu guy did control on the ground. No one got hurt. He did have advantage with that choke even if he was on his back. Maybe he was not sunk in well. Maybe he did not want to put the guy asleep ? Regardless looks like no one got hit hard enough to cause more than a scuff.
Then they both finally decided this is enough.
Then Mr. Kung Fu wanted to keep going ? I guess not decisive enough ? I guess he wanted to kill the second time around ? Or get that clean knock out? Leave no doubts as to who was the winner. He had it he let it go. No one wanted to hurt or kill anyone here.
And, anti grappling is grappling? So learn to grapple ?
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1289705]Bullshido does that all round. A lot of chest puffing and such.
It’s ridiculous online.[/QUOTE]
there is a chinese saying, dont pee on the face of a sleeping tiger. john springer made so many excuses i cant believe he didnt claim to lose due to osiris having unfairly superior sub saharan savage genetics. rudy “monkey king” abel backed out of fight 7 times. dont force me to go dig around on thatt sh1thole site looking for those arrogant posts.
i still remember omars videos where punching a heavy bag pushed himself back 3 feet, and quarter squatting 300 pounds for 1 rep while screaming like being molested.
dale “bagua commando” and omega are kung fu guys and they were never picked on because dale is humble and omega actually fought many times irl competition and rekt skinny wannabes on video.
if you are not shi dejian living on carrot mountain living a pure warrior life then stop running your mouth off and claiming you are a kung fu master.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1289705]Bullshido does that all round. A lot of chest puffing and such.
It’s ridiculous online. I have to say, there are people in all camps who fail at staying chill in the face of trolls.
Historically, it’s happened to all of us at one time or another. That’s how trolls become trolls after all.
Bottom line is that there are less than 200 fighters male and female around the whole entire world that are making good bank from just having a fight or two a year. And, as soon as one is on the hill, it’s not long before another comes along to knock them down. That is the folly of martial artists and the thinking one is superior to another etc.[/QUOTE]
So Bullshido actually goes around and hunts dudes down ? Or are these all agreed on will meet you here ? Sorry, I really don’t follow all these forums and what they do or talk about. I joined a couple early on but they all seemed dead. To network mainly. So just here really.
I guess the point is is every good dojo owner should be packing a piece for when Bullshido shows up with his crew? " You said you know anti grappling- now you fight- LOL. BANG ! I think almost every state in the nation would call that a solid self defense. Well theose gus train to hurt people. I feared for my life. I shot him.
The rest ran away and left their friend on the ground. Like most good friend do… that’s life too.
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1289708]So Bullshido actually goes around and hunts dudes down ?[/QUOTE]
autistic aging men claiming kung fu is superior on a mma forum which is mostly a meeting place for angry teens mentally recovering after being bullied and scammed by kung fu frauds
[QUOTE=bawang;1289710]autistic aging men claiming kung fu is superior on a mma forum which is mostly a meeting place for angry teens mentally recovering after being bullied and scammed by kung fu frauds
what could go wrong[/QUOTE]
The Tiger that pee’d on me. Sadly, he has died. He was a beautiful cat. He was originally from Rochester.
the thing is people like novelle “black taoist” bell may have dubious fighting ability, but black taoist does beautiful forms and is a good teacher. he got divine form and is top performer in america and is on par with top performers in china. the rythm, tempo, spirit and athleticism are all on point.
john springer and omar look like overgrown crack babies and do these sloppy rubber band floppy rabbit feet forms. remind me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISBeBuVKXL0
if you cant fight AND your form sucks, you are a kung fu failure and an overall failure in life.
LOL. Okay. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. No need to spend time at that place.
Kids. Teens and young men. How much fake this or that could they have learned ? At best they got dragged in to karate daycare. Maybe they are angry about that ? To bad because a lot these schools now teach okay gymnastics. Seriously. These kids can do all this gymnastic moves. Their karate may not be great but it looks flashy.
Most people don’t want to fight. In fact, I never want to again if I can avoid it. I can not take the beatings anymore. Hit and run is perfect for me. But I don’t run as good anymore either, LOL.
Just young dudes wanting recognition. Changing of the guards. If they stick it out in one of those gyms, they at least have spirit. Conditioning and spirit often trumps superior knowledge and skill. That is the base all other is built on.
even if you only learned one thing, like the bridge, then do hip thrust until you can thrust 300 pounds. then when someone mount you, you can send them flying to the sky. or if you only learn mount. then train thighs until you can squeeze 200 pounds and your thighs look like tree trunks. then when you mount someone you crush their ribs. this is the spirit of shaolin kung fu.[/QUOTE]
This is simply what Kung Fu is about, regardless of style.
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1289706]Another thing that confuses me.
You all showed up to fight or watch. So one side decides, this is a bad spot to do this. Lets go down the road. Less eyes on us. SMART actually. Obviously this was not a lets see who wins in a duel to the death. It was a ****ing match, period. My dogs better than your dog. Period. Such is life. Main cause.
But nope, I guess it was you are not deciding the battle ground. Concrete baby ! WTF ? Yet when it went to concrete was anyone trying to kill ,break or maim anyone else ? Nope, it was control and trying to knock out. Like most fights in real life. It is just proving who has bigger nuts to create a pecking order.
That said, Mr. Kung Fu guy did control on the ground. No one got hurt. He did have advantage with that choke even if he was on his back. Maybe he was not sunk in well. Maybe he did not want to put the guy asleep ? Regardless looks like no one got hit hard enough to cause more than a scuff.
Then they both finally decided this is enough.
Then Mr. Kung Fu wanted to keep going ? I guess not decisive enough ? I guess he wanted to kill the second time around ? Or get that clean knock out? Leave no doubts as to who was the winner. He had it he let it go. No one wanted to hurt or kill anyone here.
And, anti grappling is grappling? So learn to grapple ?[/QUOTE]
I take it you have never grappled, he didnt control the ground he was mounted you cant choke anyone from the mount, he was mounted and holding on for dear life, when his opponent got some space he hit him with a few solid shots, kung fu guy as you call him couldnt get him off, he had no clue about how to fight on the ground, which for someone who says he trained extensively with the army Greco wrestling team because he was hard to take down he had terrible takedown defence and movement on the ground
He let it go because he was helpless in how to get up, and his opponent was fairly clueless about what to do as well, the fact that JFS managed to get taken down and mounted by someone who was a white/blue belt with little MMA experience says an aweful lot about his skill levels, and this guy spent years talking about how good he was, did seminars all over about how to fight grapplers etc
[QUOTE=bawang;1289720]dawei jameisun ur just salty bullshido made fun of the video of u with iron rings in ur house. if u get the big mussels they not make fun of u[/QUOTE]
lol, well I guess we’re even, because I made fun of them all the time.
There is a “dirty” choke from judo that you can pull off if you’re mounted as long as you have really strong grips and arms which is called Ryote Jime.
This choke is one that’s actually pretty simple to pull off (when you’re not mounted and you’re attacking) because people don’t see it used very often so they’re not used to defending it.
[QUOTE=Frost;1289728]I take it you have never grappled, he didnt control the ground he was mounted you cant choke anyone from the mount, he was mounted and holding on for dear life, when his opponent got some space he hit him with a few solid shots, kung fu guy as you call him couldnt get him off, he had no clue about how to fight on the ground, which for someone who says he trained extensively with the army Greco wrestling team because he was hard to take down he had terrible takedown defence and movement on the ground
He let it go because he was helpless in how to get up, and his opponent was fairly clueless about what to do as well, the fact that JFS managed to get taken down and mounted by someone who was a white/blue belt with little MMA experience says an aweful lot about his skill levels, and this guy spent years talking about how good he was, did seminars all over about how to fight grapplers etc[/QUOTE]
I have never studied BJJ.
I saw a guillotine. If it was or was not I don’t know. It could have also been a face lock but looked more like the first. I saw no real good solid shots in my opinion. I saw Kung Fu guy controlling shoulders to stop power. Why did the other guy not slap his arm across his face and reach under and control the arm ? Why did Kung Fu guy not hug to control the punches? I don’t know. This is what they did and this is what Is saw. Basically a jr. High School fight.
When it was over one guy wanted to go again and the other just wanted to leave. Who won? WE did. We got to watch it and say, he did this wrong. He did that wrong. Well, this is what they did.
I don’t care who either are. I watched the fight and wrote what I saw. You see it different perhaps. Based on your experience. So am I right or are you right ?
Is my observation less valid then yours and vice versa ?
I did enjoy the prefight smoke. If this was supposed to show the superiority of either methods it failed to do so for me.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1289730]There is a “dirty” choke from judo that you can pull off if you’re mounted as long as you have really strong grips and arms which is called Ryote Jime.
This choke is one that’s actually pretty simple to pull off (when you’re not mounted and you’re attacking) because people don’t see it used very often so they’re not used to defending it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1289731]I have never studied BJJ.
I saw a guillotine. If it was or was not I don’t know. It could have also been a face lock but looked more like the first. I saw no real good solid shots in my opinion. I saw Kung Fu guy controlling shoulders to stop power. Why did the other guy not slap his arm across his face and reach under and control the arm ? Why did Kung Fu guy not hug to control the punches? I don’t know. This is what they did and this is what Is saw. Basically a jr. High School fight.
When it was over one guy wanted to go again and the other just wanted to leave. Who won? WE did. We got to watch it and say, he did this wrong. He did that wrong. Well, this is what they did.
I don’t care who either are. I watched the fight and wrote what I saw. You see it different perhaps. Based on your experience. So am I right or are you right ?
Is my observation less valid then yours and vice versa ?
I did enjoy the prefight smoke. If this was supposed to show the superiority of either methods it failed to do so for me.[/QUOTE]
Can I just check are you actually talking about the same fight springer v the shirtless black man in a car park? Is that the fight you are talking about?
