Serpent
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR> Whatever I write, you have no way of knowing if it’s true or not, so what difference does it make? [/quote]
Try me.
Fu-Pow
You guys are missing the point with childish attacks
…now i am not referring to all of you but please refrain from making such jokes as regards to individual’s prefrence as a way of attack. Gay individuals are people, but you should use it to attack or insult to people…this is a great deal of disrespect. Now i know your intention was not to be but please, be civilized.
And although I am sure Fu-pow is 100% with his info profile and fighting ability, but then you are missing the point of fact that filling out a profile doesn’t really mean anything.
And since you also mention how DFW is altering his CLF to fit tai chi style…well this means that he is altering the intent of how to perform a form, BUT does not prove his fighting ability.
You should really consider trying him out before making such claims. I know they are harmless, and I am sure it isn’t that big of a deal…still you are flawed.
And just because we don’t agree, it doesn’t mean you beating me up can prove a right answer…in fact it could be far from it.
Experience will prove us all. But when you claim to know enough…then it is you who know nothing at all. (not literally of course, but you get what i mean)
I’ll agree that Frank should lay off the gay jokes. Sorry Frank, it’s just not that funny.
Sure anyone can lie when filling out there profile, hell, I created a whole altered identity (aka IronKim )and I really had people going. But there were some people that were on to me and knew I was full of ****. By not fillng out your profile you are not even giving anyone the opportunity to call you on it. You’re just a name with no info to back up anything you are saying.
You have to hand it to Frank for being ballsy. Not only did he fill out his profile but he comes on here with his real name and says exactly whats on his mind.
Whether DFW is a good fighter has yet to be proven. I don’t think that he has proven himself in that way. Then again, there are a lot of Sifus out there with little full contact experience. I just wouldn’t pick one of those people as my teachers.
Fu-Pow
well…yeah that sounds reasonable that is your choice.
Although I agree he may not have proven himself (publicly?) it doesn’t mean he can’t kick ass right? Just because he’s not seemingly one doesn’t mean he’s another. Then again what do i know.
Hey Fu-Pow who do you study CLF with anyway?
just curious
Iron_Silk
CLF with Mak Hin Fai, a student of the late great Lee Koon Hung. (Sifu Mak has got an article coming up in this next months Kung fu magazine if you want to check it out).
Hun Yuan Chen Taiji with Harrison Moretz, a student of Feng Zhiquiang (Master Feng is on the cover of Tai Chi Magazine this month, an my teacher managed to get his picture in one of the articles).
So needless to say, my lineage is good, although it says nothing about my knowledge or ability. 
It is interesting to see the many differences between two “long arm” styles.
Fu-Pow
I think read a article by your sifu on Sup Ji kow Da “CLF hardest form”?
I got exposed to Chen tai chi before, and really got into the theory of application since the instructor i had really concentrated on application.
Well this thread has totally gone of topic, but maybe it was for the best.
Iron_Silk-
Yep, my Sifu was in IKF about 6 months ago. He did an article on Sup Ji Kow Dah. His applications were great!!!
Chen style is badass very hard to understand though coming from an external background. I’m just starting to get down the basics.
Fu-Pow
off topic indeed
it was a pity I never learned Sup Ji Kow Dah from my master…perhaps all this talk of CLF would give me enough courage to approach my master again?
and totally! With Chen tai chi you have to be totally relaxed…since any strength you use (which is what is taught in external kung fu) would put you at a disadvantage, and also to fa-jing.
Re: DFW and CHS
First let me state, contrary to popular opinion, Doc Fai Wong, is of the Hung-Sing lineage, that being of Lau Bun, to Jew Leong currently passed on to Grandmaster Jew Tien Loong. There are different strokes for different folks, and I asure you all regardless of how he looks, his foundation is strong and he will hurt you. Don’t be confused by the display. This is in no way a run to aide of DFW, however within the Hung Sing family he would be considered a uncle to my generation of classmates, in saying regardless of how we feel he may have done things in past, he is of the Hung-Sing family, and I say if Grandmaster Jew Leong didn’t ramp and rave about him then why should we, especially those within our family. Did any of you know that in one of DFW “Inside Kung Fu” articles he stated Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut to be the most famous, given respect and honor to our lineage. That is not to say that the other branches are not effective. To make a long story short, DFW is a Hung-Sing Choy Lee Fut man, he teaches Lau Bun system, and do Jason perform his Choy Lee Fut like Tai Chi, and if so so what, what difference does it make. This kind of petty talk will never bring about a unity within our family. I may not go along with all DFW has to say, but I still respect him as a senior in our Hung Sing School, and that makes the difference. Now concerning the Green Grass Monk and Joseph, Chan Heung did not complete the system sort of speaking as you stated, but it is way beyond the sun, moon and stars that Cheung Yim could go and develop what he learned for whatever reasons differently for whatever reasons. I have a friend who studies with Chan Yong Fa, so mind you i’m quite familiar with the Chan Family style, and he told me when asked about Lau Bun version, Chan Yong Fa, stated it’s still Choy Lee Fut, just different. So to me something has been changed from when Cheung Yim originally learned from Chan Heung. Now this is nothing to do with my classmate Frank, so don’t reference him here, this is merely about Cheung Yim’s ability to induct his life experience and martial training, his concepts, theories, his interpretation, his version, which I believe when looked upon by most Chan Family stylist, there reply is it’s not our lineage, but it is still choy lee fut.
Sifu Troy
Just as you and Frank both came from the same school, you two are so different in the way you think and act. So I’d imagine given time, there will be different lines of development just like Jeong Yim and his class mates. This is where the diversity and vigour of CLF came from, but as you said it, it is still Choy Lee Fut.
Joseph