[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1212193]The leaning can let the ground to pull your body. The ground pulling can give your the momentum. .[/QUOTE]
Umm… no. The force of gravity is downward, not forward.
[QUOTE=LaRoux;1212198]Umm… no. The force of gravity is downward, not forward.[/QUOTE]
If you don’t move your feet, the moment that your center of gravity is outside of your base, you will fall.
http://imageshack.us/a/img714/2850/balancebase.jpg
The following loop will give you the “momentum”.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7104/crosscountryski.jpg
- If you move your foot forward,
- the area of your base is redefined.
- Your center of gravity will be back inside of your base again and you will not fall.
- If you body is still leaning,
- your center of gravity will be outside of your base again.
- Goto step 1.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1212199]If you don’t move your feet, the moment that your center of gravity is outside of your base, you will fall.
http://imageshack.us/a/img714/2850/balancebase.jpg
The following loop will give you the “momentum”.
- If you move your foot forward,
- the area of your base is redefined.
- Your center of gravity will be back inside of your base again and you will not fall.
- If you body is still leaning,
- your center of gravity will be outside of your base again.
- Goto step 1.[/QUOTE]
Leaning has nothing to do with it. Look at the image of the sprinters I posted above.
[QUOTE=LaRoux;1212200]Leaning has nothing to do with it. Look at the image of the sprinters I posted above.[/QUOTE]
Look at the image of the cross country ski I posted above.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1212201]Look at the image of the cross country ski I posted above.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7104/crosscountryski.jpg[/QUOTE]
The cross country skeir leans forward to be able to generate the force into the ground with the poles. Cross country skiing with poles is totally and completely different than simply running.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1212193]You can’t have speed if your body is vertical.
--------------------------------------------------------------------That is nonsense.Lots of good runners
have a fairly straight structure while the feet are churning.
And, when the distance is short- close quarters- a wing chun person who understands structure
and quickly shoot forward to close distance and attack with bik ma shooting stance.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1212107]Cr*p article.[/QUOTE]
So constructive and really necessary…
Try reading the bit on courtesy.
http://ipmankungfu.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/ip-mans-code-of-conduct-teaches-values-and-ethics/
[QUOTE=thedreamer7;1212217]
Try reading the bit on courtesy.
http://ipmankungfu.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/ip-mans-code-of-conduct-teaches-values-and-ethics/[/QUOTE]
What nonsense!
I don’t think Ip Man himself even abided by some of those rules if the truth be known! 
Graham on ethics?
[QUOTE=Graham H;1212218]What nonsense!
I don’t think Ip Man himself even abided by some of those rules if the truth be known! :D[/QUOTE]
Ethics deals with goals and standards.
There are usually gaps between goals and achievements.
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1212222]----------------------------------------------------------------
Ethics deals with goals and standards.
There are usually gaps between goals and achievements.[/QUOTE]
Ethics vary from person to person, culture to culture, coast to coast. You cannot umbrella the whole kung fu community worldwide with such nonsense as “Ip Man’s code of ethics”
Maybe it would be better like this…
TRY to be disciplined
PRACTICE courtesy and righteousness to those that deserve it.
RESPECT your fellow students or classmates up until a point they act like d**ks
INDULGE your desires and pursuit of bodily pleasures but don’t overdo it – you only live once
TRAIN diligently and make it a habit – maintain your skills. (I agree with this one lol)
LEARN not to provoke arguments and fights but get stuck in if needs be.
BE yourself and do not lie to yourself
HELP yourself and only help others if no harm should come to yourself first. You could die in the process.
PASS on what you have learnt from your teacher, try to evolve and don’t be scared to step outside the box now and then as times change.
There you go Joy. Translate that into Chinese writing, put a fancy frame around it, hang it above your Dummy and in 50 years time it will need updating again:D:D:D:D
[QUOTE=Graham H;1212223]Ethics vary from person to person, culture to culture, coast to coast.
Wow- great thinkers are deeply indebted to you on the nature of ethics.
If relativism is a principle and principles are relative to individual, culture and region-there are some apparent fallacies in that line of reasoning.
Gravity is the best ally , if you can’t figure out how to use it, you only have your strength, YKW is right, victor never let the guy gain his balance which is why it worked and victor used gravity..
The only thing maybe off in the punches was coming from centerline, but did not need that, he can be sitting and punches could be wc, nothing to do with stance. Lol , shoulders only and balance side to side , not swinging shoulders and punches hitting centerline.
Running (and walking, for that matter) is on one level continuously falling forward while using your feet to stop you landing flat on your face.
Read up on chi or POSE running, which have exactly that as a fundamental part of the technique.
Bolt’s torso may be vertical (well actually he IS leaning slightly forward, sorry), but his COG is well ahead of his driving foot - as is the same for one of the other runners.
You should not bend at the waist, but definitely have a slight forward lean, the degree dependent on how fast you are running.
wikipedia:
Elements of good running technique
Upright posture and a slight forward lean
Leaning forward places a runner’s center of mass on the front part of the foot, which avoids landing on the heel and facilitates the use of the spring mechanism of the foot. It also makes it easier for the runner to avoid landing the foot in front of the center of mass and the resultant braking effect. While upright posture is essential, a runner should maintain a relaxed frame and use his/her core to keep posture upright and stable. This helps prevent injury as long as the body is neither rigid nor tense. The most common running mistakes are tilting the chin up and scrunching shoulders.[14]
Lean comes from the ankles, not the waist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx6x2cD6Y8Q
Can we get back to arguing about WC and MMA, rather than how to run? No one on the thread has any apparent expertise in the latter (and it is probable that the same is true of the former)
[QUOTE=anerlich;1212318]Running (and walking, for that matter) is on one level continuously falling forward while using your feet to stop you landing flat on your face.
Read up on chi or POSE running, which have exactly that as a fundamental part of the technique.
Bolt’s torso may be vertical (well actually he IS leaning slightly forward, sorry), but his COG is well ahead of his driving foot - as is the same for one of the other runners.
You should not bend at the waist, but definitely have a slight forward lean, the degree dependent on how fast you are running.
wikipedia:
Elements of good running technique
Upright posture and a slight forward lean
Leaning forward places a runner’s center of mass on the front part of the foot, which avoids landing on the heel and facilitates the use of the spring mechanism of the foot. It also makes it easier for the runner to avoid landing the foot in front of the center of mass and the resultant braking effect. While upright posture is essential, a runner should maintain a relaxed frame and use his/her core to keep posture upright and stable. This helps prevent injury as long as the body is neither rigid nor tense. The most common running mistakes are tilting the chin up and scrunching shoulders.[14]
Lean comes from the ankles, not the waist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx6x2cD6Y8Q
Can we get back to arguing about WC and MMA, rather than how to run? No one on the thread has any apparent expertise in the latter (and it is probable that the same is true of the former)[/QUOTE]
Technically, you are “leaning” any time you move forward.
In WC one can clearly move forward without leaning forward, it’s in the CK form.
[QUOTE=CRCAUSA;1212580]In WC one can clearly move forward without leaning forward, it’s in the CK form.[/QUOTE]
I guess you are going to have to define lean here. Without defining what you mean by lean, it’s a pretty useless discussion.
A better terminology would be to flex at certain joints. You can move forward without flexing at the hip joint or knee, but you can’t move forward without flexing at the ankle joint.
Something has to get you to move your center of gravity past your toes, otherwise you won’t move in a forward direction.
If you knew a little more about WC you would know what I mean not to lean.
[QUOTE=CRCAUSA;1212603]If you knew a little more about WC you would know what I mean not to lean.:)[/QUOTE]
You are right about that. Maybe you could enlighten me. Can you point me to a clip that shows an example of that?
Thanks.
No need, I’m not here to enlighten anyone. If you really want to know I would suggest enrolling in a good WC school.
[QUOTE=CRCAUSA;1212608]No need, I’m not here to enlighten anyone. If you really want to know I would suggest enrolling in a good WC school. :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that’s what I thought.