In class last night I was going over some elbow applications with my students and found they seemed to pick them up quite easily.
I think alot is over looked for these easy to use and hard to block aresenals we have. Just wondering if others like to use them as much or are they somewhat over looked in your style?
Re: Elbows anyone?
Originally posted by EarthDragon
In class last night I was going over some elbow applications with my students and found they seemed to pick them up quite easily.
I think alot is over looked for these easy to use and hard to block aresenals we have. Just wondering if others like to use them as much or are they somewhat over looked in your style?
i like elbows, they are effective. i dont know about other styles, but i think they tend to be overlooked in kung fu.
Re: Re: Elbows anyone?
Originally posted by Shaolinlueb
i like elbows, they are effective. i dont know about other styles, but i think they tend to be overlooked in kung fu.
What what what?
Re: Re: Re: Elbows anyone?
Originally posted by MasterKiller
What what what?
exactly 
I dont know a lot of other styles other then the ones i practice. and the forms i have seen in other styles i havent seen many elbows if any at all. so please dont judge my knowledge in other styles. cause i lack it.
We use elbows A LOT. But not in a traditional way. For example, I won’t lead with an elbow, I think that takes a nice long weapon and makes it half as short.
But when inside I’m happy to elbow that spot below your nipple as the fist finds the face. Or if you collapse me, fill that space with an elbow.
Things to watch out for – and I see it a lot in WIng Chun – is called the Lobster Claw.
Where upon rolling your elbow you actually collapse yourself, have the hand fade back into the chest (where it can be pinned). That’s why I don’t like the turm, “roll”
But anyway, elbows are good and hurt a lot. They are also account for 85% of my blocking… more if we’re just talking anti-punches.
muay thai loves elbows.
Originally posted by SevenStar
muay thai loves elbows.
thank you captian obvious
Originally posted by SevenStar
muay thai loves cock.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
I love cock.
sevenstar just owned MK
probably not the first time either. 
:o
Originally posted by Shaolinlueb
sevenstar just owned my ass
probably not the first time either.
Originally posted by Water Dragon
lol
Originally posted by MasterKiller
sevenstar just beat my ass cuz I didn’t have his money.
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Originally posted by SevenStar
Mrs. sevenstar just owned MK
probably not the first time either.
There are many methods of using elbow (Zhou) in Tang Lang.
The elbow is also used in many other schools.
In Ba Ji, the elbow is used to shield and get close. It is used to push or Ding. The elbow is then followed by the hand and the hip strikes.
Ba Ji is considered a close fighting, so the elbow is used a lot.
In Tai Ji, the elbow is one of the 8 Jin’s method.
In White Ape Tong Bei, there is a old routine consisted of all elbow strikes non stop, high, low, left, right, front and back and turn. Elbow, elbow and elbow.
There is an old saying.
Ni Ai Yi Quan; Bu So Yi Zhou.
Happy to receive punches. Miserable to take an elbow strike.
Elbow is a very potent weapon or tool and do greatest damages.
In 8 step mantis we have 8 cardinal rules for fighting and one of them is …close the enemy using the long hand, then desroy the enemy using the short hand.
This works very well when you are crossing hands. when you are striking or blocking at somewhat of a distance and get trapped up or you do the trapping or collasping either way on defense or offence it is very easy to manuever the elbow using the rotational movement of the shoulder. This is very tricky to block, see it comming and or defend against.
I have seen close in fighting using whats called Baduan and they use these techniques quite effetively. However I have also seen many styles and systems that dont use elbows correctly.
Every school has different ways of using the elbow.
Mantis does have more “complete”, more “developed” ways of using the elbow.
In Mei Hua Tai Ji Mantis, there are 8 elbows routine and methods. Usually, the elbow is coupled with or part of other techniques and not standing alone.
SPJ[b]
Ni Ai Yi Quan; Bu So Yi Zhou.
Happy to receive punches. Miserable to take an elbow strike.
[/b]You’re shitting us aren’t you?!
That’s a real saying…? Well I suppose there’re enough Chinese people to make a saying about anything really, eventually.
Here, let me try.
Ancient saying:
“Large population. Much talk.”
Anyway, back to the topic…
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Things to watch out for – and I see it a lot in WIng Chun – is called the Lobster Claw.
Where upon rolling your elbow you actually collapse yourself, have the hand fade back into the chest (where it can be pinned). That’s why I don’t like the turm, “roll”
[/b]I don’t get it (as a WCer). The ‘rolling elbow’ you’re talking about is presumably the downwards one from biu jee…? I can see your point about the possibility of the pin, though it’s never happened to me, but I can’t see it collapsing your structure unless you have done it wrong (gone too far). Incidentally, there are five more elbows I can think of in wing chun off the top of my head, only one of which involves putting your hand in your chest.
Yes, it is a common saying.
Some may say it in different ways.
The general idea is that the elbow is worse than the fist if you are to take the blows or strikes.
Well yeah, cheers, I got the meaning thanks chief.
I was only joking as to its popularity and the fact that there really is a saying about everything in China…
So I’m out with me Aunty Lioon doing a spot of yum cha, and I see a ninja walking by and it’s just sooo sweeet so I just flip out and punch my aunt in the head, and she leans over to me all breathless, takes my elbow and whispers… “You know Mat, Happy to receive punches. Miserable to take an elbow strike.”
So I punch her again. And she smiles beatifically.