Does Your WC use elbow strikes and knees?
Is there a different distance for elbowing someone oppose to chain punch?
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1140548]Does Your WC use elbow strikes and knees?
Is there a different distance for elbowing someone oppose to chain punch?[/QUOTE]
Why not ask your sifu all these questions?
Answer yes and yes.
All WC guys are good husbands. Their wives won’t have to worry about them to have affairs with other women.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1140574]All WC guys are good husbands. Their wives won’t have to worry about them to have affairs with other women.[/QUOTE]
Never mind the methodology- on with your survey research!!
PS- Folks who don’t get along with their wing chun (I do!!) perhaps might consider a divorce .
Would be fine with me.
no & no…
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1140574]All WC guys are good husbands. Their wives won’t have to worry about them to have affairs with other women.[/QUOTE]
I will copy and email this to my wife. Hopefully she will believe it and I can continue to have fun. 
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1140548]Does Your WC use elbow strikes and knees?[/QUOTE]
Yes, many elbow and knee attacks!
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1140548]Is there a different distance for elbowing someone oppose to chain punch?[/QUOTE]
Of course there is. Usually when you are in punching distance, you punch or palm strike. Only when you are in range then elbows (and knees) become relevant.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1140587]no & no…[/QUOTE]
You are kidding right? There are no elbow or knee strikes in Philip Bayer Wing Chun? :eek:
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1140548]Does Your WC use elbow strikes and knees?
Is there a different distance for elbowing someone oppose to chain punch?[/QUOTE]
As to the first question, I dont see any knees in VT but if you get a chance to connect with a knee, seize it.
As to the second question, to quote gary lam, if you can punch why you use elbow? Don’t make sense - Elbow for close distance only.
I love elbows. The only problem with elbows is that if you are in range to strike someone with elbows, you are also in range to receive them. Same goes for knees.
A ground specialist takes you to the ground, because thats where he is better than you. If you are an elbows expert, take your opponent to your elbow range. If your punching is better, keep him at the punching range.
Make your opponent play your game; don’t play theirs.
[QUOTE=trubblman;1140602]As to the first question, I dont see any knees in VT but if you get a chance to connect with a knee, seize it.
As to the second question, to quote gary lam, if you can punch why you use elbow? Don’t make sense - Elbow for close distance only.[/QUOTE]
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The Tiger Tail Kick has knee techniques hidden in it.
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Two ways to deal with the opponent. The defensive way is to strike him out and run; the other way is to bring him in, stop him from escaping and butcher him. Elbows become a very useful tool when you want to butcher him in close range.
yes and yes
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1140587]no & no…[/QUOTE]
Does your wing chun have elbow strikes?
The knee is half way up the leg, and the elbow is half way up the arm. This makes them extremely short weapons. neither one are to be considered as a primary weapon, but a weapon for in very close and in situations where you can not actually do a kick or a punch. The elbow does not empart near the power you might think it does either. It is too short. In fact, it should only be used in an emergency, like when someone grabs your wrist or grabs you around the neck or body from behind. It is better than nothing in such cases, and can inflict some injury. In a close struggle with someone you can pull him down and attack him with your knees, but I would never deliberately try to move in to use it as a primary weapon.
The knee and elbow are indeed a part of Wing Chun. It has it’s place and it has it’s proper use. Just like the bong sao. I have seen people use this as a primary block or parry, then bring it back with a tan sao. It should not be used in such a way. The gong sao is for when your arms are in the wrong position or the hands are down in the lower gate. It is just an elbow/forearm sweep that fills in for other techniques of block or parry. The same with the dropping elbow or forearm drop. They all have a use and a purpose. For emergency use only. Knees and elbows are like that.
Old Chinese saying said, “You prefer to receive 10 punches than to revceive 1 elbow.”
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1140637]Old Chinese saying said, “You prefer to receive 10 punches than to revceive 1 elbow.”[/QUOTE]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An elbow is potentially far more powerful than a punch. And there are quite a few elbows in wing chun- using wing chun structure and motion.
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1140645]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An elbow is potentially far more powerful than a punch. And there are quite a few elbows in wing chun- using wing chun structure and motion.[/QUOTE]
Elbow concepts yes…elbow striking no.
Elbows tend to cut and make lots of blood.
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;1140632] The elbow does not empart near the power you might think it does either. It is too short. [/QUOTE]
Your world will be really turned upside down if you ever get hit with a full bloodied elbow. The ability to generate power at the elbow without big arcs takes practice and is what differentiates the elbow strikes of WC from those of MT but the elbow is incredibly powerful, a very solid striking surface and very difficult to stop.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1140653]Elbow concepts yes…elbow striking no.
Elbows tend to cut and make lots of blood.[/QUOTE]
Not allways. Elbows only cut when they are either targetted poorly eg around the eyes as a result of the skin being stretched across the bone on the area of impact, or if they are done in a slashing motion causing glancing blows (although again you have to hit the necessary part of the body ie the bony bits of the head). If the elbow is delivered in correct fashion with the force transmitted to the jic seen they cause massive percussive trauma which often results in knockouts and broken bones (from experience)
[QUOTE=wingchunIan;1140658]Not allways. Elbows only cut when they are either targetted poorly eg around the eyes as a result of the skin being stretched across the bone on the area of impact, or if they are done in a slashing motion causing glancing blows (although again you have to hit the necessary part of the body ie the bony bits of the head). If the elbow is delivered in correct fashion with the force transmitted to the jic seen they cause massive percussive trauma which often results in knockouts and broken bones (from experience)[/QUOTE]
VT doesnt do elbow strikes… clothing also inhibits them. Please dont tell me elbow strikes are in Bil Gee either. There is no elbow strike in SLT