Originally posted by yuanfen … I have not seen much wing chun in your postings. Honest.
Re-reading this thread I can honestly say the same for you - which is truly a shame given the fact that you usually have the tendency to post respectful, well thought responses. I still look forward to your future posts. I have no problem with agreeing to disagree on this thread.
Originally posted by whippinghand Spectre - Perhaps, some re-analysis of your own posts is in order… You lack consistency.
Thank you for pointing out my faults Whipping Hand. Hopefully some day you can grow enough to recognize your own. Until then I will continue to exchange words with you everytime you post senseless responses or belittle those asking for help (Not to be confused with them asking you to think for them).
I’m not sure anybody has ever asked WH to “pour it all on” this forum-just enough to be clear and helpful. I don’t have a problem with thinking about things. More often than not, others ask WH to be more clear(less cryptic),and more often than not he refuses. Although, lately I’ve been very surprised at the length of some of his recent posts(quotes don’t count). So I wonder again, what do you gain from this forum WH? If, indeed, WC is in such a state of decline why do you not tailor your answers to be more beneficial for those not as far along the path as you. And, I still don’t see how that is disrespectful to his sihing.
Not every student in an Economics class will have the same profession. Some will become economists, presidents of a bank, bank managers, entrepreneurs, actors, waiters, vagrants. They are not necessarily following the same path.
WH, your analogy does not apply. I think when I looked at your profile before it said you have trained in WC for 10 years. I have only trained for almost 2. Academic class and martial arts training are not the same. People who would devote 10 years to the study of Economics are on the same path, although not walking in each other’s footsteps. We are both learning WC, therefore we are on the same path. We might have different goals. Are you going to answer the other questions I have asked, Truthfinder?
I believe it is #1-perhaps you would like to explain your analogy further? They are there in the thread for you to answer. I’m sure you like to conveniently believe in #2 and #3 and #4. My questions are simple.
Shadowboxer sez:People who would devote 10 years to the study of Economics are on the same path, although not walking in each other’s footsteps. We are both learning WC, therefore …
Learning wing chun or economics is not like learning how to operate the cash register at a gas pumping outlet.
Who is teaching, which curriculum they are following, the nature of the student and other things can make a big difference.
No cookie cutter in either subject. No one shoe fits all.
Nobody seems to care, yuenfan. Few seem interested in attempting to figure out if who they are learning from is any good (by good I don’t mean “kicking ass”, I mean actually understanding what he does), or figuring out what the curriculum is and the purpose of it. People are just happy learning Wing Chun regardless of who it’s from, then convince themselves that “this guy is really good” or that he’s good enough. I’d rather learn no Wing Chun at all than to learn crap.
The problem is: How someone can tell if a instructor is really understanding what he’s talking about? Beginners can’t tell about these things so sometimes they learn “crap”.
The lineage is not so reliable also. What if Moy Yat (Used as an example) had been reluctant to teach to a “disciple” He could have very well (again example) taken the money and let the guy think he was learning something! The best way to do this is to tell the poor guy that he’s the recipient of “secret and close doors techniques”!
I look at this and I realise I should not have used a real name to illustrate my thoughts in my last post. Even if I mention that it is an example,it could offend some people and it was not my goal at all. I hope some who may feel concerned by this will not take it the bad way.
Our little Wing Chun world is so full of paranoïds!
We have to be carefull!