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Are you confused?

Originally posted by Phenix
[B] Does a CPU MUST runs Window operating system in order to activate it’s machine language exercution?

Certainly, for learning, it is great to have a Machine Language emulator in Window environment to understand Machine language. But, emulation is an emulation.

Who understand? What is the basic nature? when everything is impermenant. Thus, it is about let go not about learning more based on one’s “I” center paradigm. it is about emptying not about to collect more things… [/B]

  1. Really? Ok. You seem to have the conception that I think the universe begins with me. Let that go buddy.

  2. Once you understand yourself, you can let go of the “I” paradigm as you put it and begin again by understanding the relationship of the universe and yourself.

  3. Everything that is impermanent consists of things that are permanent: Time, Space, and Energy. And sure Chan is about Emptiness, but it means nothing and can’t be appreciated nor fully understood without experiencing Fullness.

  4. I have no idea how your example of computers relates to me if that is what you are trying to do. Perhaps you could elaborate on that more, and tell me what you are really thinking instead of using an example.

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Dust = Matter = Space

Originally posted by Phenix
Universe … Time, space, energy… lots and lots of space to colect dust and dust and dust…

Yes Hendrik, there certainly is a lot of dust in the universe. We call it space (matter). You know, Arizona has a lot of dust too. Wow, experiencing reality…

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Hi Savi,

I’m only human. Like a “karmic” sailboat driven by strong gusts of passion but steered firmly by reason, I boldly chart the universe. The world is a stage and I just act my role.

Regards,

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Re: Are you confused?

  1. Really? Ok. You seem to have the conception that I think the universe begins with me. Let that go buddy.—S

the universe according to John and the Simsons family are a totally different universe , John life and simsons life, john WCK and simsons WCK, john favoriet food and simsons
's favoriet food… right? -HS

  1. Once you understand yourself, you can let go of the “I” paradigm as you put it and begin again by understanding the relationship of the universe and yourself. —S

" The past mind cannot be hold permenent, the future mind cannot be hold permenent, the present mind cannot be hold permenant" – diamond sutra

Which “yourself” have to be understood?
which universe? --HS

  1. Everything that is impermanent consists of things that are permanent: Time, Space, and Energy. And sure Chan is about Emptiness, but it means nothing and can’t be appreciated nor fully understood without experiencing Fullness.-S

Chan is about emptying “I”. Then, the fish can see air as space. the bird can sees water as space.

If the fist continous insist on its Time, Space, and energy. then it always is a fish. :smiley:

  1. I have no idea how your example of computers relates to me if that is what you are trying to do. Perhaps you could elaborate on that more, and tell me what you are really thinking instead of using an example. :smiley: --S

Is computer a part of universe?:smiley:

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Re: Dust = Matter = Space

Originally posted by Savi

Yes Hendrik, there certainly is a lot of dust in the universe. We call it space (matter). You know, Arizona has a lot of dust too. Wow, experiencing reality…

To a dead Hendrik or a dreaming Hendrik where is the dust?

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Originally posted by PaulH
[B]Hi Savi,

I’m only human. Like a “karmic” sailboat driven by strong gusts of passion but steered firmly by reason, I boldly chart the universe. The world is a stage and I just act my role.

Regards, [/B]

I heard Diaz’s hot picture is on the web — that “I” is a problem glue me to karmic and passion… and drunk…:smiley:

“I” loves Diaz’s innocent smile. – that “I” make my universe but you might loves Demi more! … well, another sleepless in Seatle. :smiley:

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Chan = Shaolin Wing Chun

You see Hendrik, the thing is that with the WC I am studying, it is not based on an individual. It does not begin with one person’s personal kung fu skill or experience. It does not begin with Yim Wing Chun and her infamous skills, nor any other singular figure.

The WC I am studying does not begin nor is it based in the “I” paradigm.

It is based harmonizing with reality and things that are practical. Chan is everywhere in WC. Maybe not in ones you are familiar with or you can identify with, but it is everywhere in the one I practice.

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Re: Re: Are you confused?

Originally posted by Phenix
the universe according to John and the Simsons family are a totally different universe , John life and simsons life, john WCK and simsons WCK, john favoriet food and simsons
's favoriet food… right? -HS

Those are “I” paradigms, so yes you are right.

Originally posted by Phenix
[B] " The past mind cannot be hold permenent, the future mind cannot be hold permenent, the present mind cannot be hold permenant" – diamond sutra

Which “yourself” have to be understood?
which universe? --HS [/B]

Chan is about here and now. Nothing more. You have so many questions about past , present and future. Are you lost Hendrik? Here and Now buddy…

Originally posted by Phenix
[B] Chan is about emptying “I”. Then, the fish can see air as space. the bird can sees water as space.

If the fist continous insist on its Time, Space, and energy. then it always is a fish. :smiley: [/B]

The highest level of Buddhism is the Buddha. The buddha is not a person, but a state of existence. But to reach that level, because we are human beings, we begin with “I”. That is the process. Can you really be empty of things you do not understand? if you don’t understand it, how do you know if you are empty of it? HMMM…

Originally posted by Phenix
[B] 4. I have no idea how your example of computers relates to me if that is what you are trying to do. Perhaps you could elaborate on that more, and tell me what you are really thinking instead of using an example. :smiley: --S

Is computer a part of universe?:smiley: [/B]

Answering my statement with a question? Most obviously a computer is part of the universe, but it is still a computer. You have some very funny questions for such a deep and meaningful discussion. Wow Hendrik, I am so intrigued by your astuteness!

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Re: Re: Re: Are you confused?

Chan is about here and now. Nothing more. You have so many questions about past , present and future. Are you lost Hendrik? Here and Now buddy…—S

past, present, and future are time right? a apart of the universe right? :smiley:

The highest level of Buddhism is the Buddha.—S

Anuktarasammyaksambodhi means “ultimate real equal impartial wisdom” who is highest who is lowest? --HS

The buddha is not a person.–S

There is Shakamuni Buddha exist in the history of mankind. He is as real as Diaz or Demi :D. --HS

But to reach that level, because we are human beings, we begin with “I”. That is the process. -S

Good starts -HS

Can you really be empty of things you do not understand? if you don’t understand it, how do you know if you are empty of it? HMMM…–S

Simson doesn’t smoke pot and doesn’t understand pot.
How do simson knows he is free from pot? --HS

Answering my statement with a question? Most obviously a computer is part of the universe, but it is still a computer. --S

You add discrimination list to your list within your universe? how about R2D2? Harry Potter, Charles angers, Simsons’ family? :smiley: --HS

You have some very funny questions for such a deep and meaningful discussion. Wow Hendrik, I am so intrigued by your astuteness! --S

Joy, is all Chan monks serious and deep and rigid and proper and righteous and pocker face and wearing a T shirt written “I am Chan monk” similar to CoCo Channel T-shirt…? --HS

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Ok ready to go back to the retreat…

Savi, get that book from Dilgo Rimpoche. It will help you and your friends…

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I like pickles, I hate carrots.

Thank you for the discussion. I have learned much more about you.

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weng kiu

The answers you seek Hendrik are in the wck itself but if you look for those answers inside books, online forums or white crane you will only be left with more questions.

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These debates on egolessness slay me. :smiley:

Regards,

  • kj
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The search for signs of intelligent life in the universe

<<Chan teaching is a teaching. A method of persuing buddha nature.
Thus, it can be describe precise and concise what is Chan teaching.>>HS

–What is Ch’an teaching? Where is Ch’an? Keep walking, though there’s no place to get to. Don’t try to see through the distance.–RH

<<If the fist continous insist on its Time, Space, and energy. then it always is a fish.>>HS

–A fist has five fingers, and a fish has one tail. Hendrik, when will you drop a habit that has kept you from reaching your potential?–RH

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Well, the fireworks have been most illuminating and fun! I thank this forum to give me a chance to reach out and crush some self. Ha! Ha!

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No you’re not!

Am too!

Yes he is!

You’re not either!

Yo mama!

Nanynany…

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Serenity and Peace.

You know KJ, RH, and PaulH, I really do try and make friends with everyone and after things have been said and done you do make me smile! Laugh alittle bit too, I might add.

Roger, go and visit www.hfy108.com there are many friends awaiting your presence! You truly are welcome there, I hope to see you there. Everyone else too of course! There are private as well as public forums there.

Peace everyone…

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Huen Lop?

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Hendrik

Hendrik, aren’t there different types of Buddhist teachings???

Sheldon

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Re: Serenity and Peace.

Originally posted by Savi
You know KJ, RH, and PaulH, I really do try and make friends with everyone and after things have been said and done you do make me smile! Laugh alittle bit too, I might add.

Laughter is good medicine. :slight_smile:

Regards,

  • kj