anybody go to the school or affiliated schools?
anyone going to the pakua tournament that does?
anyone fighting?
i need sponsorship, particularly under glen moore. thats why i asked.
ma
Ma_Xu_Zha
anyone fighting?
From What I hear Park people don’t compete at tournaments, Most of them claim their techniques are to dangerous, or Park just don’t want them to compete at all.
But I have seen a few of his people compete at a few of Yee’s Hung Gu tournaments in New Jersey in Forms competition. These guys were from that New Jersey school.
But I never seen them do any Ba Gua Zhang within a internal form competition, or fighting in a tournament event.
ic and know
i already know that, just want to rally up some people from there and build a offical team and so I will talk to glen moore about it.
represent represent
ma
i already know that, just want to rally up some people from there and build a offical team and so I will talk to glen moore about it.
That’s cool, I like to see some of Parks Ba Gua Zhang people fight.
Park’s people
I’ve always read on these boards that Parks people can’t fight? Not my statement, like I said, I read it. Never heard anything good about Mr. Moore’s fighting skills either.
I did train at the school in Richmond VA. for over 2 years- directly with Bok Nam Park …well…when he was around anyway.
Training was very expensive and he was usually somewhere else giving a seminar to others rather then his direct students. Needless to say that got old & very dissappointing.
Does anyone else have any direct experience with park or his people, if so I’d like to hear it.
be suspicious…
be very VERY suspicious…
TaoBoxer
Well, you might as well of said nothingl. What are your thoughts? Any direct association with the group? Please expand…Thx
suspicious ?..
I am also curious as to the meaning of that statement. Are you saying Park’s school is all show and no substance?
Anybody else with personal experience of Park’s school have opinions?
I’m interested in hearing them.
actually
his school is very good and so is glen moore.
when i went about 7 years agao i didnt really appreciate my experience but looking back it was very good and traditional.
at the time i was younger and to energetic and wanted to learn everything. what i did learn there has gone a long ways.
what is taught is very effective for fighting and now that i have moved on it is very useful information.
it was bitter lessons, now it taste sweet. alot of basics, but your only as good as your basics. its up to the individual, not the instructor or school on how much you want to develope your kung fu through hard work.
ma
Glenn Wright
Thanks for the input MA.
To any of Park’s students…
Does anyone know Glenn Wright? He’s the only guy within a 300 mile radius of me that teaches Pa Kua. I just can’t get the guy to call me back. I 've even put a letter in the mail to him.
Is he not teaching these days, or is it an “old school” kinda thing where I have to keep trying for several months before he calls back? I’ve heard that some sifus literally make you wait on their doorstep for a long time before accepting you.
I don’t wanna end up in cell for stalking the guy !!! 
Glen Moore
I know that when I attended the school a few years back Glen was only there at night and I trained during the day so I never had a chance to meet him. Have you tried calling in the evening?
I’ve also read post by …I think…blacktaoist that Moore’s skills are quite lacking. Again, I don’t know, just what I’ve read here by people who have met him.
Where are you located?
Good luck.
I’m in Tennessee, about 2 hours east of Nashville. The guy I’m talkin about is Glenn Wright. I believe he’s a senior Student of Park’s since the 70’s.
Not sure, but I think we’re talkin bout different people.
touch hands
the only grounds blacktaoist has to make such a statement is if he has had an actual combat experience with glen.
he probably hasnt so he makes an inappropriate statement.
dont believe everything you read.
you cannot judge ones ability by watching a form, like taiji it looks slow or whatever, but there is power inside. parks forms are not like swimming body with coiling and special wrapping and showy, they are no nonsense in execution.
parks techniques are quite powerful than any kung fu school i have attended (6 schools in all). they have a shock value and should not be used on someone. however all schools should promote competition amoung the students to test their abilites in a martial community setting as to demonstrate skill and effectiveness of their art.
i have also encountered many pakua seminars and have not come across the same methods of power development also.
I’ve also read post by …I think…blacktaoist that Moore’s skills are quite lacking.
What I said was, I seen him on that fendamental of Ba Gua Zhang instructional video. And From the footage of Mr. Moore, Its my opinion the man needs to work on his coordination and needs to do some conditioning training.
i have also encountered many pakua seminars and have not come across the same methods of power development also.
So you are saying Parks method is the most powerful out here. If you think that. Then you have a hell of a long way to go in traditional Ba Gua Zhang palm training methods.
he probably hasnt so he makes an inappropriate statement.
I never crosshands with any of Parks top students, But I don’t see myself having and kind of difficulty beating them if I was to spar and of them.
By the way Ma_Xu_Zha, The palm striking exercises you guys do are not of any Yin Style system that I know of. After all park claims his style is Yin Style. Park palm drills are alright, But you never develop Real internal power. A real Ba Gua Zhang practitioner striking force can’t be seen, even when practicing their palm striking exercises. Traditional Ba Gua Zhang palm striking methods are metaphysical training methods. (advanced energy practice) not basic palm exercises as park is teaching.
For one, most Yin style systems have a 64 open palm sequence. These open palm forms give training in extending energy to the palms and finger tips. So there is no real need for the kind of external palm striking training as Park method is doing.
blacktaoist
Very very true. Park does teach it that way and it doesn’t train you to issue real energy properly.
How do we judge?
Ma.
you cannot judge ones ability by watching a form, like taiji it looks slow or whatever, but there is power inside. parks forms are not like swimming body with coiling and special wrapping and showy, they are no nonsense in execution.
You can make some judgments on someone forms - especially pa kua. How do you practice? You practice with forms for coordination, speed, power, and physical memorization. There is nothing wrong with anybody making opinions on practitioners if they can sustain sensible information concerning their statement.
i have also encountered many pakua seminars and have not come across the same methods of power development also
Just out of curiosity (not in to challenge or debate you but for my own edification) What pa kua seminars did you attend? Who were the teachers? Could you provide this info?
Ma_Xu_Zha
What do you mean by your statement:
parks techniques are quite powerful than any kung fu school i have attended.
Also, Who were these instructors? Not to diss you but I have to question your experiance in Ba-Gua. Based on the methods shown on those videos, they were basic at best as the per the title. But those tapes are old now. Higher methods of power deveopment should be in circulation by now among the general populance. Hopefully some of parks people will show up at the all Ba-Gua tournament and demonstrate what your talking about.
Maoshan
Very very true. Park does teach it that way and it doesn’t train you to issue real energy properly.
Does Park teach this to the advanced students only? Or does he teach it at all? I don’t have experience in bagua (yet), but I would think internal power is integral to the process.
Just outta curiosity, does anyone know who PArk has designated as his lineage disciples? Surely they should have the ability to generate real power.