bong sau

phil i get it your closing of a line on entry , and if and when he try’s to change you zap him in this your timing is ahead he is reactive , good place to be. as long as you have good timing the tooling is interchangable ,basicly a door is open the exact way you chose to go through that door is up to you,

That’s it Ernie. See, I knew you’d get it. Of course it depends on how the guy holds his guard. Some boxers guard is closed. Some Thai boxers have a wider guard. If the guard is wide/open it’s hard to do this, at least for me. But if he has a tight boxer type guard it’s easier to explode and restrict the lead arm. If you time it just right once you make contact you clock him. If he steps back you follow and smother him or even kick to close the gap. Remember this works when you are parallel leg/arm, (left to right or right to left). I have a different one for cross leg/arm, (right to right or left to left), situations. Sometimes I fake to see his reaction. Will he punch if he thinks I’m coming in? Will he just stand there sleeping? Will he step back or to the side? Will he “try” to kick as I close in on him?
I base my explosion/jam on that if I can. I don’t want to blindly charge in you know…smile.

my man phil got some tining and awareness ,
you go with your badself
:slight_smile:

i know exactly what your talking about i use a similar idea but slightly different tooling , i like cause a little shock so what ever lead hand is offered or is starting to fire i pak it , but the trick is as i’k doing that i’m on my way to cutting off the rear hand befor it fires with my second hand , and finally the original hand i started with fires into his grill [ 3 actions on one beat as i move through him ] they usually just freez like i stuck them with a cattle prodd ,
the coll thing is it’s universal , matched or unmatched leads works the same :smiley:
i have smacked boxers from one side of the ring to the toher it just drives them nuts there not used to having the center pressured like that and hands immoblized .
i can send you a clip of gary doing this stuff he has all the routes broken down is training drills if you want ,
peace

Ernie I would really love to see a clip of that…

hit me on the side and when i cut it down i’ll put it on my server and you can down load it , did i ever send you the pak sau stuff, and i will be gone for over a week i will be whitwater rafting so if i don’t die i’ll hook you up

for earine

hi earnie, i hope you have a good time , on holiday if you are hearing , anything , about me olny belive , half of it. brother, oh on the lead hand , try jamming the frount hand with, wing chun fround hand jab. peace russell sherry and phill if it work"s for you that"s fine, but i don"t like being not able to use, my hand freely i like to hit the sucker,

phill if it work"s for you that"s fine, but i don"t like being not able to use, my hand freely i like to hit the sucker

Hi Russell, I don’t see where I can’t hit using the jam I described. I
the person will be hit before they know what hit them. I have to make a video for some to see. Maybe I can do it with someone wearing headgear.

Id like to see that as well Phill. I cant visualise it :confused:

S.Teebas
I see that I can’t email you an example so you’ll have to wait until it’s put up on the site.

Ernie
I’ll be emailing you a video clip example.
¿Cómo estaba su viaje?

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Eso fue slang compi. Pero gracias.

achha dhonyabad!

mvto!

re front hand jab

hi guy"s sorry about the type over i have been trying, to be more careful. phil the way i would , counter a boxer"s jab, is a jabing movement, of my own but as our mate earnie say"s
go off his line, use the jab, jam his arm , with your own and follow, up as quickl"y as possiable. this is where you use wu sau , phil make his counter useless with it , phil as i said before what work"s for you is fine , and what work"s for me is ok too , peace russell sherry

Hi Russell,
I wasn’t refering to countering a jab. I was talking about explosively ‘charging’ in and jamming then trapping/hitting. There is another thread on the jab. Also, don’t worry about your typing. You’re getting your point across very well.

yuanfen
Hindi?

Phil- first one- ok thank you- hindi
changing pronounciation could make it bengali-
my mother tongue. 2nd- is thank you in Muscogee (Creek)-(Oklahoma tribe)
my late wife’s language. Its deceptive because it seems to use English letters but the sounds are different- more like maahdoh

re bong sau

hi guy"s phil sorry about , talking about the wrong, subjet. mis read it ok. as far, as charging at you and using that , i am going to disagrree with you again sorry about that but as a disabled person someone coming, at me fast makes me nervous i would counter this as our mate earnie , say"S get of his line maybe use tan da follow up with as many punches as possiable, try to turn him around, use his force against him, and try to get , him it the worst possiable postion, and take him down , remember if he is chargeing at you, he may have a blade, or needle, you can not discount, this sometimes, double bloack"S such as the one you discribe, are dangerous, but if it work"s for you its ok what work"S for me is fine to peace russellsherry