[QUOTE=Ultimatewingchun;943289]I’m sorry, Robert, but I’m not buying this at all. He spent a very limited amount of time with you - but somehow you managed to teach him everything that’s relevant about wing chun - that you knew of - at the time he was with you!? Which was decades after you actually started in wing chun! :rolleyes:
How much can one REALLY learn about a system in 2 weeks of training, for example, Robert?! 
Do you know what I’m talking about? You can cover all the theories in a geometry course in a few weeks, right Robert?
But without the constant oversight of a skilled teacher who is always explaining, drilling, testing - over the course of a much longer period - just how much geometry can one actually understand and apply?!
The same is true with martial arts.
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Again, you don’t know what you are talking about or how much time I spent with Robert. You’re once again making sh1t up.
The other thing is you don’t understand training. You don’t need “constant oversight” of a teacher – and for that matter, how would the “constant oversight” of someone who isn’t particularly skilled, like Cheung, help you? You don’t become a better golfer by haviing the “constant oversight” of a bad golfer. What you NEED instead of “constant oversight” is the same things you NEED in every athletic activity/sport – just to learn the fundamentals and then a lot of practice “playing the game” with good people. That’s how you get better.
Oh, and btw, this is so typical of you – the pot calling the kettle black. You are learning catch through video tape! Where is the “constant correction” that you think so necessary? Hmmm? Does this apply to just everyone else but not you?
In short, you’re just trying to cover up his a55 since he’s clearly become a major source of embarrassment. :eek:
I think I’ve become a major source of annoyance to you.
I’m not going to be fooled about this, Robert. Sorry…
But you are fooled by so many other things . . . hitting with the fingers, the TWC entry technique, pressure point striking, Cheung’s reputation, etc.
If he was any good, and after all the big talking and criticizing he’s done for years now - he would have posted at least one video of himself by now,
doing…s-o-m-e-t-h-i-n-g…related to wing chun/martial arts.
But alas: nothing. Not one single thing. That silence speaks volumes.
It says that I’m not some moron that wants to put videos of myself up on the 'net for ego gratification. As I said previously, you don’t see videos of Robert on youtube or Dave/Dzu on youtube, etc. Alan puts up videos sincehe is selling a product.
Apparently you like putting up videos showing how much you don’t know about WCK. That’s not my bag.
In addition, and as an aside to the whole forum - as I said on a recent post, it’s unwise and unfeasible to try and answer everything that someone like Niehoff may decide to post.
Because his posts are so numerous and so deceitful (ie.- here he is once again trying to deny that he obviously punked out of the Cleveland event).
I believe my work about Niehoff is done for awhile - and I will try my best to continue discussing relevant wing chun/martial art issues…
instead of being hijacked thread-after-thread by an insecure, jealous and arrogant liar who tries to pretend that he’s some sort of expert about what’s good wing chun - what’s not…what’s good martial arts - and what’s not.
You have posted many more times than me. What does that say about you?
And, as I’ve said before, I don’t hold myself out to be an expert. I don’t think there are any experts in WCK (this is the sort of thing that p1sses you off sinceyou consider yourself an expert).
In reality, he’s just a wannabe bigshot lawyer who specializes in getting violent criminals out of jail and back on the streets - when he isn’t all over the internet trying to burn people with insults and make-believe wing chun/martial art knowledge and make-believe skill sets of his own.
Why do you keep bringing upmy profession? What has that anything to do with this?
There was a time, for example, when Niehoff made literally dozens (if not close to 100) posts wherein he was quoting Matt Thornton literally word-for-word.
I never quoted Thornton word-for-word. You’re making things up again. You’re good at that. Thornton is a very good, proven fighting coach – and there aren’t many who share their views as he does. While I don’t agree with everything he says (he thinks, quite justifiably IMO, that WCK “is silly”), we in WCK would do a whole lot better listening to people like Thornton who not only have very good fighting skills and who have trained some world class level fighters, then to listen to people who have no proven fighting skills or coaching skills.
I mean, really, what’s that all about? How can you take a guy like this seriously?
You can’t. He’s a friggin’ joke. Trying to pose like he’s actually “somebody”. Like he actually knows/has a high level of wing chun knowledge and skill.
He doesn’t. Not even close to high level. AND THAT’S WHY HE SPECIALIZES, WHEN ON THIS FORUM, IN TRYING TO TEAR WING CHUN (AND WING CHUN PEOPLE) DOWN.
You don’t like criticism and you can’t handle criticism. If you can back up your views with evidence or reason, then criticism won’t bother you. You don’t like it that I point out the nonsense, the fantasy, etc. that permeates WCK. Your Cheung clip is a perfect example of that – here is a guy touted by you, talking about how silly chi gerk is, showing that he doesn’t even understand what the drill teaches and in the only fight we’ve everseen him in, he obviously doesn’t know what to di with his legs on the inside and gets taken down because of that. You have no good response to the criticism. So all you can do is tell everyone one what an @sshole I am.
If he’s not in some sort of dominant position - then he wants to see it burn. And he wants to try and cut people off at the knees. Let’s take William Cheung as an example. William was 43 years old at the time of the 1984 seminar wherein this thread’s first post and first video began.
So what? At age 43 you suddenly forget what to do with your legs on the inside and begin to do stupid things? Or maybe his “advanced age” is what made him go around the world calling himself “the world’s best fighter” and “wing chun’s best fighter” and challenging everyone? 
Or, is it because atage 43, he wasn’t anything special, wasn’t particularly skiled, and there was a lot about WCK he simply didn’t know?
And Niehoff, from what I can gather, is now in his mid-forties. You were at that 1984 seminar, right, Robert? And Niehoff constantly tries to hurl nasty insults at people like William Cheung, right Robert? Now what do you think would have happened between a 45 year old William Cheung (then) and a 45 year old Terence Niehoff (now)?
In about 20 seconds, or less…
Victor, your hero never had much in the way of fighting skill. He never fought anyone good. He fought with other teenagers when he was a teenager. Back in 1984 Cheung, like the rest of the big names, had only one thing that made them special – they knew WCK. There was hardly anyone around who knew it and could teach it. These guys weren’t giants and great fighters – they were the guys that learned from Yip, they were among the very fewwith that limited resource, and they cashed in on the Bruce Lee phenomena. That’s all.
Get it? This a55hole needs to be put in his place. And as he’s made it crystal clear on numerous occasions on this forum that that kind of thing could (would) never happen up close and personal…
then what’s left?
He occasionally has to be “beaten down” right here, on a forum like this - for his outrageous disrespect and insolence against people who are far ahead of him.
By being exposed as the FRAUD that he really is.
Like what I’m doing right now.
If this is a beating down, let the beating continue! I am in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
